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Re: Help put more tickets into circulation.

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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:33 PM
With the dramatic reduction of hats that can be bought using tickets, the price floor preventing new users from buying things easily, and the rise in the market fee, tickets have pretty much been falling since they were introduced. They aren't meant to be worth as much as ROBUX, but at the rate things are going, the ticket's value is thinning out more and more.

What could work, even just a little bit:

•Lowering the price floor and/or market fee
•Release hats for tickets more frequently

What could not work (reasons specified):

•Adding to the bonus of NBC or making place visits earn the owner more tickets (inflation would increase)
•Changing the TC rates to 10 (rates are defined by users)

Let me know what you guys think, and please add your own ideas.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:34 PM
WNTS
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:35 PM
@Silver

This isn't listed there.
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ExecutedBagel is not online. ExecutedBagel
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26 Mar 2014 10:35 PM
wut
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:38 PM
read between the lines. (not literally. if you don't understand that idiom, and I quote, "You sir, are the idiom!" Pink Panther )
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:39 PM
Hint: WNTS, Posted too often 1. Read it. Read it again. Read it a third time. If you still don't get it, think. Just think. Then keep thinking. Until you get it.
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:39 PM
@Silver

If you're not contributing in some way, I don't think you belong in this section.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:40 PM
You really have to study debating -_-
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:41 PM
Oh yes, and this would ruin the roblox economy. Prices would skyrocket and we would be "Out of the frying pan and into the fire".
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:41 PM
@Silver

This isn't debating the topic; this is you saying my suggestion is against the WNTS, and you're wrong.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:45 PM
it is.

Offence number 1: CANCEL THE WHOLE THING. (IE, undo a massive update, remove huge features, etc.)
you would cancel the huge update of the tix thing.

Offence number 2: More rights for NBC/fewer privileges for BC. (This includes "more/less tix or robux", "more/fewer places", etc.).
Doing what you suggested would give more rights to NBCs. It increases the rate of the Tix.

Offence number 3: FREE ROBUX FOR EVERYONE!!! (This includes raffles, contests, lotteries, giveaways, scavenger hunts for tix, etc.)
You give people free robux by increasing the cost of the tix, which give you the robux.
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Detrotsid is not online. Detrotsid
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26 Mar 2014 10:48 PM
Damn, Silver beat me to it.
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:51 PM
@Silver

1. I'm saying to reduce, which, as gordonrox said himself, they're looking for ways to do.
2-3. It's not giving anyone anything; it's increasing the value of tickets and reducing the amount that »anyone« spends using tickets.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:53 PM
Is that enough? Or do you want me to do more? okay, lez do more.

Problem 1: Roblox economy goes down

Problem 2: Would cause heavy damage to roblox

Problem 3: Lowers roblox's money earnings (this is bad, explained in problem 4)

Problem 4: Roblox website has small chance of shutting down (costs money to keep it up. Trust me, it makes sense)

Problem 5: WNTS
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:55 PM
Counters:

1: If you didn't know, it was a massive update, the raise in ticket prices. You WOULD be cancelling that entire update

2-3: It technically is giving you more robux. Tix worth more = robux worth less = giving free robux(basically) = destroy roblox economy = chance of roblox website shutting down
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:56 PM
@Silver

1-2. It's already going down, but if nothing is done, we might as well remove tickets as a currency.
3-4. Explain please.
5. Already tore this down. This thread's staying.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 10:57 PM
If roblox website doesnt shut down directly because of this it can loop through this:

Gears start to get a lower price, even limited hats, VIP T-shirts, VIP Game passes, etc. Eventually, this would lead to roblox getting boring, which leads to users leaving, which leaves only the loyal robloxians (like me). But with all the losses roblox had just taken, roblox would have to shutdown, even though there are loyal robloxians.
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:57 PM
@Silver

No, stop changing my words.

1. I said reduce, not remove.
2. Tickets used to be worth more and there wasn't a problem then. Either tickets are worthless, or they can be saved.
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 10:59 PM
@Silver

You're pulling that BS users leaving card? Users are leaving because of the price floors and tickets being out of control. If they can't afford something, »that« will make people bored and want to leave.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 11:00 PM
1-2: I know you said reducing. the tix thing has been going up and down, like a real market, but if you lower the tix immediately, all because of this forum post, it breaks the point of that update.

3-4: I just explained. Lower tix = More robux = less money earned by roblox = prices go down = users leave from boredom, leaving the loyal robloxians = roblox website shutdown

5: who says you already torn it down?

Part 2

1: explained already

2: The economy of America is getting worse. Roblox needs to make more money to survive.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 11:02 PM
fixing up the "users leaving card" then:

roblox makes less money, which leads to roblox not being able to keep up with american economy. then, bye bye roblox (which i hope doesn't happen). Also gets rid of the point of having limiteds in the first place.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 11:02 PM
I can throw in more reasons if you wish.

I'VE SEEN FORUM POSTS LIKE THIS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH!!! ITS LIKE SPAM NOW!
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 11:04 PM
You counteed only that one part, which isnt even a full on counter. the other 5 points cu through and i countered your counter.
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Rushour3 is not online. Rushour3
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26 Mar 2014 11:12 PM
»1-2: I know you said reducing. the tix thing has been going up and down, like a real market, but if you lower the tix immediately, all because of this forum post, it breaks the point of that update.

3-4: I just explained. Lower tix = More robux = less money earned by roblox = prices go down = users leave from boredom, leaving the loyal robloxians = roblox website shutdown

5: who says you already torn it down?

Part 2

1: explained already

2: The economy of America is getting worse. Roblox needs to make more money to survive.«

1-2. Actually, tickets have steadily lost value since they were introduced.
3-4. Not going to type the same thing I typed last time. Reread and figure it out.
5. I do.
2. They're doing fine, but if you let the »virtual« economy die because of tickets losing value, ROBLOX loses money.
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SilverArgentum is not online. SilverArgentum
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26 Mar 2014 11:15 PM
Okay, new reason added on here. Think from Roblox's perspective. They NEED to make money. And your perspective? You WANT to make money. There is a huge difference between NEED and WANT. NEED is when you literally need it to survive. WANT is when you just want to make the money so you can get something. You WANT to make money by increasing the tix cost. Roblox NEEDS to make money, and achieves it by lowering the tix cost. WANT is not as powerful as NEED.

Heres an example: If somebody has a NEED for something, like, for example, food, it would make sense to give him/her food. If somebody WANTS food, but they don't NEED it, what's the point of giving food to them? They don't NEED it while there are people out there who do. This is similar to roblox and this forum. Roblox NEEDS to make money to keep the website running. You WANT to make money on roblox and decide to lower roblox's money gain. It might not be a big difference, but in reality, every change can change everything.
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