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Re: Fiddler? Why Not!

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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 01:48 AM
I recently came across this thread, saying that Fiddler users should get banned for animation exploiting. And I have to say, I was shocked by how many people supported the idea! They had NO logic at all. In fact, most of them said that they were jealous! That's no reason to ban them.

Link to Thread: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=128868807

I admit, they can be inappropriate at times, he has a point there, but what about Fiddler users who aren't doing any harm? He didn't take that into consideration, and just said straight up ban them all.

And also, animations are available in the catalog, so does this not mean that roblox is fine with them? If they are allowing users to create and give them?
All these animations do are move our arms, legs, torso and head around, so why not? What's the big deal?

If you think i'm incorrect, tell me! I'm happy to hear you out.
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astrogunge555 is not online. astrogunge555
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27 Mar 2014 01:49 AM
Fantastic fine sir! I think you are totally correct, and i myself are a fiddler. Authough there are rude animations, i don't really use them.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 01:50 AM
People that use the Fiddler exploit should be banned.They use it as a way to cheat in games.Take the most recent The Next Level episode.A Fiddler exploiter used the Fiddler to kill Majortom4321 in a instance.You are a horrible person to approve of the Fiddler.
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astrogunge555 is not online. astrogunge555
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27 Mar 2014 01:51 AM
Yes, but that was because someone used it in a bad way. I belive if people ARE using it in a bad way, then they should get banned. But if they are not doing anything, then tahts okay.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 01:53 AM
@Naruto9200,

How would animations kill a person? Why am I a horrible person to share my opinion? Sorry, but I don't agree with you. And by the way, what about the fiddler users who don't do any harm? My friend is a taxi, should he be banned? I simply don't understand the big deal.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 01:57 AM
And also, for you people saying you disagree with me, I said I was happy to hear you out. And you're just calling me a horrible person, so should you NOT be banned for being so rude? That's worse than what the Fiddler people are doing, moving there arms around. I simply don't understand the big deal with Fiddler. Please provide logical evidence before disagreeing with me. :)
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 01:58 AM
Dude Fiddler users have been using the exploit as a way to cheat in many games.As I said before,look at the most recent "The Next Level".A fiddler user used the fiddler to get special abilities from the Fiddler to kill MajorTom4321.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 01:59 AM
I'm talking about animations, and I don't think MajorTom's dead. So he just got a Wipe out, get over it. :)
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 02:00 AM
The fiddler doesn't just move parts of you body in a certain position.It gives you certain animations that can also help you cheat in games.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 02:01 AM
And what about the Fiddler users not doing this? Read my first post carefully please. :)
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 02:01 AM
It's funny how you think Majortom4321 is a guy.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 02:01 AM
Sorry, I thought Tom was a guy. How's that funny? I was judging it by a gamertag..
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 02:02 AM
People have been using the Fiddler to fly,run faster,crouch at a postion where you can't kill them with a sword,ect.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 02:03 AM
You seem to not be reading my replys, i'm talking about the people not doing these bad things. And also, not kill them with a sword? Fiddler is for animations, that just means you're a bad fighter. Enough said. :)
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NutsNWaffles is not online. NutsNWaffles
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27 Mar 2014 02:05 AM
Whether you use it for your advantage or not, Fiddler is a hack. And hack's are agains't the rules... The act of changing animations doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the fact that you're using an unapproved 3rd party program that edits the code sent by the client.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 02:06 AM
Dude I am not a bad fighter.The person was even afk.It took me 5 minutes to realize I couldn't kill the person since they were crouched in the position where my sword couldn't attack the person.
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sword123456sword is not online. sword123456sword
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27 Mar 2014 02:06 AM
^Idiot Comfermed

"Dont ban fidler its dos to harm"

OMG DONT VISIT MY PLACE IT GROSS
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 02:06 AM
@NutsNWaffles,
Animations can be made and sold in the animations section of the catalog. So why's it a hack if roblox allows people to use, and make them? I don't consider it a hack, or even a exploit. :|
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GiantMilkDud is online. GiantMilkDud
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27 Mar 2014 02:06 AM
"And also, animations are available in the catalog, so does this not mean that roblox is fine with them? If they are allowing users to create and give them?
All these animations do are move our arms, legs, torso and head around, so why not? What's the big deal?"

ROBLOX is fine with CREATORS putting these animations into their own game, not with people EXPLOITING them into other's games.


And like kid above says, some animations can give users unfair advantages in games, espically fighting games.


"So he just got a Wipe out, get over it. :)"

Its not exactly the fact, "oh noes im dead cry cry", its the fact it was unfair. Nobody wants to fight an unfair battle.

"And what about the Fiddler users not doing this? Read my first post carefully please. :)"

This is like saying people should be able to walk into banks, carry around people's moneys in bags, as long as they don't leave and run off with the money. No harm done, right? :DDD

Its to prevent future misuse. You never know when these "fiddler users who don't do harm" will just turn on a bad animation and exploit a match or something.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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27 Mar 2014 02:07 AM
The Fiddler doesn't only change your animation.It also gives you the ability to run faster than anyone else and fly.
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sword123456sword is not online. sword123456sword
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27 Mar 2014 02:08 AM
Xploiters EVERY WHERE!
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manofarmy12 is not online. manofarmy12
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27 Mar 2014 02:08 AM
I believe Fiddler should be patched, and the user's don't get banned.

Reason Fiddler should be patched, is because it's a Third Party exploit and goes against ROBLOX's rules.
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DeathCollection is not online. DeathCollection
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27 Mar 2014 02:09 AM
@GiantMilkDud,
I'm talking about people not doing any harm. Like in Trade Hangout, but thanks for the logical evidence. :)
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LemmJuice is not online. LemmJuice
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27 Mar 2014 02:10 AM
Fiddler = Altering the game in a way it shouldn't be.

Hacking = Altering the game in a way it shouldn't be.


So really if you're using fiddler you are hacking.
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Kaden422 is not online. Kaden422
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27 Mar 2014 02:12 AM
WHy not?
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