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Re: [WARNING] Political Talk: Ukraine

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DrInfuscate is not online. DrInfuscate
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25 Mar 2014 07:12 PM
To all of you people that will take this half seriously,

I want to hear opinions regarding Crimea. I've heard what my Co-Workers in the army have said, and the occasional intelligent post on Roblox.

I want to see what all of you think.


Personally, I support everything Russia has done up to this point. I'm keeping it that brief for now, though you can find 3 paragraph posts from me on other threads.
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IcyTheHedgehog is not online. IcyTheHedgehog
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25 Mar 2014 07:14 PM
>posts in c7g where people dont know the difference between reality and online fiction

>expects good responses
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Dhammapada is not online. Dhammapada
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25 Mar 2014 07:14 PM
inb4SovietUnion2.0
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DrInfuscate is not online. DrInfuscate
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25 Mar 2014 07:15 PM
I'm not expecting all of the responses to be legit.

However there are other people such as me that are actually into politics, and I want to get some of them together, and see what they say.
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Assalto is not online. Assalto
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25 Mar 2014 07:15 PM
time for my dad's extremely logical explanation
"it's world war iii
it's just like when germany invaded poland
in this case russia with crimea
we're gonna get hit by another pearl harbor
blalfjioidjkasp conspiracy"
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HeroMaster is not online. HeroMaster
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25 Mar 2014 07:16 PM
There is no democracy when the barrel of a gun is pressed to your head.

Russia is pretty much doing the modern version of what a certain chancellor of germany once did. Except this time it's without shots fired, because every news camera is pointed at them.

If Russia wanted Crimea back, instead of marching an army into it, surrounding military bases and demanding the surrender of military vessels, and THEN conducting a "democratic vote", they should've just demanded the vote in the first place.

Russia is entirely at fault because their leader has no idea what he's doing and thinks he can get away with pretty much anything.

The USA doesn't either but that's another matter altogether.
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DrInfuscate is not online. DrInfuscate
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25 Mar 2014 07:17 PM
I'm pretty sure Pearl Harbor showed the world what happens when you attack us, hoping we'll stay out of a war.

That and 9/11, though we kind of wasted out time in the middle-east. <- That's coming from a soldier, so that's EXTREMELY biased.
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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25 Mar 2014 07:19 PM
This isnt about the crimea exactly or the people in both sides although russia has a moral higher ground as it seems
This is about the US trying to isolate russia from the beginning and not wanting old soviet terrorities back in russian control, the US and EU toppled a government , then broke a couple international laws apparently then russia found out as it was happening and reacted in a brilliant manner, and the US goal the whole time was to put a sqeeze or economical relief off of russias oil choke, and NATO also had interests, and now the stance from the west is russia is breaking international law, notice what the US has been doing the last what 30 years?
Putin is playing chess, and Obama is playing checkers


As for the ukraine, never should of gave up their nukes xd
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itstimeforadventure is not online. itstimeforadventure
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25 Mar 2014 07:20 PM
Well they are in africa now so yeah, *hunten konie*
Whats your rank in the army btw?

TheDarkMelon <3
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IcyTheHedgehog is not online. IcyTheHedgehog
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25 Mar 2014 07:20 PM
these posts are giving me cancer
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cun0703 is not online. cun0703
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25 Mar 2014 07:20 PM
If Crimeans would want to be russian then they should leave Ukraine and go into Russia.Ukraine has earned its land.Russia is clearly taking it away from them.Recently they got kicked out of the G8. I'm pretty sure Russia is smart enough to not war Ukraine since it's a NATO countr.y
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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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25 Mar 2014 07:21 PM
SOVIET RE-UNION!
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IcyTheHedgehog is not online. IcyTheHedgehog
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25 Mar 2014 07:22 PM
oh god, especially draco's

kill me now
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daniel8599 is not online. daniel8599
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25 Mar 2014 07:23 PM
Honestly; I'm not surprised, Putin has background in the KGB and Crimea housed an base for The russian first fleet if I recall. The issue is how they are going about it and how the UN & NATO is doing such an hatchet job of taking care of the situation.

In my opinion the US should stop throwing threats around and actually do something because from what I've read it's all "you're making an serous mistake don't do this!" as I once heard the best bluff is no bluff at all.

As for the election; he could easily be using proxies or his intelligence agencies to have an affect on those who voted. But that's conspiracy theorist stuff so let's jump out of that before someone lights the oil pit on fire.

Anyhow seems to me us at the west are playing things stupid and trying to bluff.
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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25 Mar 2014 07:25 PM
@Hero

Um I doubt your a troll, but putin knows what he is doing lmao, more so than Obama .....

First of all, this is not russias fault, there are ethnic speaking russians in the crimea, they found out once again the US -EU toppled a government, russia acted on their interests and the will of the people in crimea

Oh and whats the barrel excuse? Notice russia has always had bases in the crimea?
They never invaded, that is western propaganda

By going by your logic, the US is always at fault? No I dont think so (Even though most of the times they are , breaking international laws than enforcing it on others)

You seem confused hero

>Kosovo
>falklands
>Iraq (Where are those WMDs? xd
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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25 Mar 2014 07:28 PM
@Scrub

Obama
>Community manager
>lawyer
>Likes to play basketball

Putin
>High ranking KGB official
>Experience in Geo politics
>Fights bears

YUP PUTIN KNOWS NOTHING
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DarkVakt is not online. DarkVakt
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25 Mar 2014 07:29 PM
about 9/11

i personally don't think it would've happened if we had set up a helpfull government and the USSR left Afghanistan..

at the time we were supporting the Taliban, by giving them weapons to fight off the Soviets. Once the Soviets pulled back, the US left as-well.


But what our mistake was, was that we didn't help set up a government to help fix all destruction caused from the soviets.

if we helped, we never would've gone to war with the Talibans.

boom
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skyarex is not online. skyarex
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25 Mar 2014 07:31 PM
Yes, because taking part of Ukraine for no reason and causing a s**t storm is a really good reason to support Russia.

Hail our red leaders!
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Adam335 is not online. Adam335
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25 Mar 2014 07:33 PM
de·moc·ra·cy
noun
1.
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Putin: Democracy? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
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IcyTheHedgehog is not online. IcyTheHedgehog
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25 Mar 2014 07:34 PM
@sky

you're forgetting draco's obvious bias towards the u.s., and how he blames the u.s. for the ukraine-russian conflict

there's a lot of funny stuff on this thread
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DarkVakt is not online. DarkVakt
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25 Mar 2014 07:35 PM
was mine funny?!

c:
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mugged is not online. mugged
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25 Mar 2014 07:36 PM
WELLLLLL

I'm actually concerned about recent events - the fact that Russia wants crimea so badly they would willingly lose their seat on the U-8 is pretty big. A little scary really.
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IcyTheHedgehog is not online. IcyTheHedgehog
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25 Mar 2014 07:37 PM
@mugged

it's incredibly scary

they've also lost a lot economically because of all this
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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25 Mar 2014 07:38 PM
"Obvouis bias"
>is american
You either an idiot or an idiot, going with the latter

The US-EU were caught red handed toppling the government, so of course the US has something to do with it, I have no problem with the US in general, except for the hypocrisy ....

Do some research
:L
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DrInfuscate is not online. DrInfuscate
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25 Mar 2014 07:38 PM
Anyone questioning Putin's intelligence in this matter should be shot.

We have Obama. He's too scare to lift a finger against anyone. He's pathetic.

Putin, as it was explained above, is, not to sound like a noob, a total bad A.

He has the most leadership capabilities in the world right now.
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