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Re: Do VAK seriously think they're good?

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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 03:54 PM
They seem to act all cool and better than everyone while they have a main base which is significantly unfair.

- A VAC team which tends to make up a majority, meaning very few raids are valid.

- A VAK team which spawns next to the bases only entrance.

- Massive territorial advantage, close access to vantage point mountains.

- Raiders spawn with very few directions to run (prone to spawn kill).

- A VAK only access room next to the terminal.


It's no wonder why SMO is rarely defeated and I can tell you it's nothing to do with skill.

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altzach1102 is not online. altzach1102
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24 Mar 2014 03:55 PM
Someone is mad
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lucky108 is not online. lucky108
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24 Mar 2014 03:55 PM
vak are mlg pros

-ideas are bulletproof-
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EyeForAnEye is not online. EyeForAnEye
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24 Mar 2014 03:55 PM
Most clans have obscenely unfair forts
What's your point
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Jack0109 is not online. Jack0109
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24 Mar 2014 03:56 PM
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look01 is not online. look01
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24 Mar 2014 03:56 PM
Yet you still can't win at SMO.

Like I also point out 75% of VAC are not trained at SMO or with guns
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 03:57 PM
'Most clans have obscenely unfair forts
What's your point'

'significantly unfair'

Also most groups that claim to be 'elite' as such will have bases which aren't quite as unfair.
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Unquestioning is not online. Unquestioning
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24 Mar 2014 03:57 PM
yes
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 03:58 PM
'-the VAK only room is for the Mic
It has no tactical advantage, aside from fleeing which is cowardice

-spawns outside the base
Many spawns are inside so stop crying'

No tactical advantage? I've been close to catching the terminal many times to find 2+ players jump out of that room and kill me simply because I couldn't kill them on my way up before capturing it.

Many spawns are inside what? The base? I don't think so, spawning inside the base would only make it more unfair anyway.
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rolliply is not online. rolliply
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24 Mar 2014 03:59 PM
We do lose raids though.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 03:59 PM
'Yet you still can't win at SMO.

Like I also point out 75% of VAC are not trained at SMO or with guns'

Oh that's alright then. Because this totally contradicts my imaginary point of saying 'it's impossible to win at SMO'. No, if you actually read I pointed out that it's significantly unfair, not that it's impossible to win.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 04:00 PM
'We do lose raids though.'

Yup is a totally valid response to the original post because I was saying it is impossible to win at SMO, not that it's simply unfair or anything.
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Dravum is not online. Dravum
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24 Mar 2014 04:01 PM
The only notable group with spawns inside the base is WIJ. And with WIJ, they've taken counter measures such as a really short terminal time. Given everything VAK has, I would agree with Celestus.
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Mason123952 is not online. Mason123952
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24 Mar 2014 04:01 PM
> The truth is basicly hidden by people like you celestus.

No matter how much you want to say this is false, VAK/VAC is a clan with history and skill.
If someone asked me on ROBLOX to name famous known clans VAK would be on that list.

- Mason123952
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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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24 Mar 2014 04:01 PM
"Do VAK seriously think they're good?"


What?
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 04:03 PM
'> The truth is basicly hidden by people like you celestus.

No matter how much you want to say this is false, VAK/VAC is a clan with history and skill.
If someone asked me on ROBLOX to name famous known clans VAK would be on that list.'


Nice reasoning, your list of examples really blew my mind. Your right, their 'history and skill' really makes them a force to be reckoned with.
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SpikeMan277 is not online. SpikeMan277
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24 Mar 2014 04:05 PM
@Celestus

I have some advice.

1.Get some friends.

2.Make sure they know how to click and spam spacebar.

3.Teamwork



All you need..
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 04:05 PM
Thanks for the advice SpikeMan but I should point out it is actually your leader who asks me for advice on how to fight.
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Shadow8875 is not online. Shadow8875
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24 Mar 2014 04:06 PM
agreed
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Shallas is not online. Shallas
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24 Mar 2014 04:06 PM
They are
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SpikeMan277 is not online. SpikeMan277
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24 Mar 2014 04:08 PM
Was that a dream or wish Celestus?
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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24 Mar 2014 04:09 PM
Actually it's quite true.

Check my friends list.
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PrinceOfMora is not online. PrinceOfMora
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24 Mar 2014 04:09 PM
Support.
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Antagonise is not online. Antagonise
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24 Mar 2014 04:10 PM
guys dont fight its not nice
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HeroMaster is not online. HeroMaster
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24 Mar 2014 04:12 PM
I'm an ex-vak and I've been in the clan world since the first clan war, so I know what I'm talking about when I say that Vak has skill, dedication, and teamwork. Each vak, in a battle, trusts eachother almost completely in a way that is rare in clans.

At most, their main faults lie in relying too much on their meatshield VACs - which includes not letting VACs count as defenders in SMO. Vaks are elite, but their use of meatshields almost entirely negates their claims of being "the most elite clan that wins every war bla de bla etc" simply because it's not a filter group, it's a meatshield group.

Otherwise their only other fault is their pride, which transcends into arrogance more often than not. It ties into them refusing to cooperate with groups they go to war with, even if they give the guise of being respectful.
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