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Re: Most dangerous threat to America?

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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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22 Mar 2014 06:07 PM
Can be domestic or external.

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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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22 Mar 2014 06:10 PM
Right now I think it's laziness...
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:15 PM
china
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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22 Mar 2014 06:17 PM
Oh please, China can't even contain itself.

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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:19 PM
"china cant even contain itself"

elaborate..
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:22 PM
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VladimirIvanov is not online. VladimirIvanov
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22 Mar 2014 06:24 PM
The American companies.

These large businesses control the American politics with money. There was a documentary I watched, which is called "We're Not Broke". The documentary talks about how big companies like Target or Wal Mart have their bank accounts located in a foreign country so they can avoid being taxed by the federal government. You wouldn't be taxed if your bank account was located in Ireland, well that's the main goal for those companies.

Aside of the "offshore account" problem, these large companies also support politicians that are in the favor of big companies regardless of the political party.
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Niiqiarqusu is not online. Niiqiarqusu
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22 Mar 2014 06:24 PM
unsustainable immigration from mexico
growing black population
immigration from sub saharan africa
israel
democrat party policies
obama's "fundamental change"
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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22 Mar 2014 06:25 PM
Ok, where should we begin:

Corrupt Gov

No actual invasive threat capability in terms of military

Smog, oh god the smog.

A nice, fat housing bubble (though those empty cities sound like fun to explore!)

Or just the general fact that China is still a second world country that has plenty more years of development to go through.

In what way is China a threat? Your turn. No, being in debt to China doesn't make them a threat, and the whole thing is widely misinterpreted.
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Niiqiarqusu is not online. Niiqiarqusu
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22 Mar 2014 06:25 PM
how much the lobbyists (specifically AIPAC) influence congress
elitist politicians
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:31 PM
china, nk, and russia all have way more military soldiers than the US

china: 4.485 million soldiers total
capability of 200 million more

usa: 2.220 million soldiers total

north korea: almost 10 million soldiers total

dont you dare claim "oh the technology will help" because when you see 5-200 million enemy soldiers attacking the US vs 2.220 million it wont matter at all babe

china is an emerging economic and military power, and is becoming more and more advanced in technology
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:33 PM
income inequality, corporations, and technology are also major threats

i reccomend watching "inequality for all" and "american blackout"
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VladimirIvanov is not online. VladimirIvanov
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22 Mar 2014 06:35 PM
@pakesboy

Just because the quantity is massive, doesn't mean quality.
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22 Mar 2014 06:36 PM
@pake;

they cant even make it to guam without being sunk
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:36 PM
@ivanovwannaberussianidiot

once again, when you see 5-200 million soldiers fighting 2.2 million american ones it WONT matter
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Mar 2014 06:36 PM
@berserk

maybe NK, but china can soon if not now
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Niiqiarqusu is not online. Niiqiarqusu
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22 Mar 2014 06:37 PM
Numbers is not the sole cause in a victory
You also need to take into account where the war is fought what kind of war is being fought the technology the equipment the the leadership the tactics and the training as well as morale and other factors
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VladimirIvanov is not online. VladimirIvanov
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22 Mar 2014 06:39 PM
@Pakesboy

If you look at the numbers in the American Revolutionary War, the colonists were outnumbered by the British empire. Same goes for Napoleon's invasion of Russia. Napoleon had lead the Grand Army into Russia, but the Army failed to seize the Russian empire even with large numbers.
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22 Mar 2014 06:42 PM
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VladimirIvanov is not online. VladimirIvanov
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22 Mar 2014 06:45 PM
Again, look the the Greco-Persian War. Look up about it and you will always see the fact that the Persians had more soldiers than the Greek states. However, what the Persians did not have was the navy power the Greeks had. Before airplanes, navy was key to being a superpower like Great Britain had when the nation was an empire.
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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22 Mar 2014 06:46 PM

Okay. Assuming here that numbers were everything (which, dear god almighty, they are most certainly not), you neglected to consider other Western forces.

It seems to me you are underestimating the significance of technology, and the fact most of China's "developments" are knock-offs of US versions.

China has the hand in manpower, sure. But how effective is numbers if you can't even utilize it all? How about that China's military is mostly suited for defense, with standards being 80's-90's weaponry?

The US reigns supreme in armed forces, hurrdurr, yet many don't realize this is due to our sheer distribution capabilities. The US may not have nearly as many soldiers, but they are capable of using more effectively. There's a saying, the largest air force is the USAF, the second largest is the US Navy. US/Allied forces have the upper hand in dealing damage while sustaining minimal causalities, while China's millions upon millions of "soldiers" quickly become nothing more than cannon fodder.


"dont you dare claim "oh the technology will help" because when you see 5-200 million enemy soldiers attacking the US vs 2.220 million it wont matter at all babe"

I'm willing to bet there were millions of Soviet soldiers who were thinking along the same thing while charging at a German MG42 nest with nothing but bolt rifles. You can guess how well that went for them.

As I stated, having numbers isn't all that great unless you're capable of using them. And please, for your own sake, read up of how significant technology is in military, or any aspect of conflict.
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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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22 Mar 2014 06:48 PM
you do know that most of china's population are subsistence farmers pake?
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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22 Mar 2014 06:49 PM
I also find it funny you're presenting a scenario were the entire armed forces of US and China would just happen to meet up in a giant field.

Come on, now.
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VladimirIvanov is not online. VladimirIvanov
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22 Mar 2014 06:52 PM
Then there is the NATO alliance thanks to the Cold War. Any NATO country under attack will be supported by fellow NATO members, in a nutshell of course.
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nathan15051 is not online. nathan15051
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22 Mar 2014 06:55 PM
Russia and Co. , of course.
Maybe China but not sure
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