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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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21 Mar 2014 02:44 PM
1. Ditch that SSD. If you're planning to get an SSD for your games, don't. It's not worth it. Go ahead and get a smaller SSD dedicated to holding your OS, but you should use a hard drive to hold all of your other files.

2. RAM. Don't get 16 GB. 8 Is all you need. Getting more RAM doesn't make your game faster, it doesn't work like CPUs or GPUs.

3. Extra CPU fans. Don't get these, get thermal paste instead. Using thermal paste is a much cheaper and more quiet solution.

4. On the CPU, go AMD if you're low on money. An FX 6300 costs ~120 dollars, and will run games fine, given that you have other good hardware to support it. Just be sure to get a motherboard that supports AMD CPUs.

5. Don't get that fancy case. Some cases are very affordable, and don't have to look good to make your games run well. Gaming isn't a fashion contest.

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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 02:47 PM
No offense, but these are pretty obvious tips...
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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21 Mar 2014 02:48 PM
@fd
trying to help.
Not everyone knows some of these
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ihasabingo is not online. ihasabingo
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21 Mar 2014 02:49 PM
"a 6300 costs 120 USD"

I got my 8320 for 100 USD

THIS ARGUMENT IS INVALID
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rampagekiller3 is not online. rampagekiller3
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21 Mar 2014 02:51 PM
Getting more RAM does help FPS, when using a APU. It helps with a GPU, but it's like .2 fps boost. Faster RAM is less necessary, unless you have a APU.

Fancy cases are actually helpful. They usually have more drive bays and expansion slots. The cable management is usually my preferable and metal gives better heat dissipation. That said, any case above $100 isn't worth it.

BTW, im a grill :^)
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 02:51 PM
I would pick AMD over intel even if I had enough money to buy I7
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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21 Mar 2014 02:52 PM
@ihas
note the tilde
it means
around
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ihasabingo is not online. ihasabingo
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21 Mar 2014 02:52 PM
Tip:

Go to Microcenter on black Friday

I just solved all your issues
AMD FX 8320 for 100
ASUS m5A99x PRO R2.0 mobo for 90
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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21 Mar 2014 02:57 PM
next black friday i should see if i can get myself a 760
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Samastrike is not online. Samastrike
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21 Mar 2014 03:27 PM
@fd

Ummmm, why?
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 03:35 PM
The way I judge CPUs is by Cores and frequency(Hertz) not by this "Haswell" or or "Ivybridge" thing, I still don't even get what they are.

Anyway

AMD FX 8350
8 cores
5.1 GHz
1000 EGP/150 USD

Intel i7(Can't remember the model no.....)
3.1 GHz
4 cores
2700 EGP/ 200 USD

Correct me if I am wrong.
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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21 Mar 2014 03:37 PM
@fd
intel has more power than amd cpus
if you took a quad core 3.0 from both brands intel would win
but amd is great for budget building
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 03:39 PM
and by more power you mean...
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Samastrike is not online. Samastrike
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22 Mar 2014 05:11 AM
@fd

Not all cores are created equal...
AMD's FX 8350 isn't 8 true cores, as a lot of the resources are shared between 2 'cores' on each module. Also intel's cores have much higher performance per clock (per 1 Hz) than AMD's, so as it turns out intel's i7's still perform a lot better than the FX 8350, despite having 'less cores' and being clocked lower.
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NuclearWarheads is not online. NuclearWarheads
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22 Mar 2014 05:59 AM
I can get a 120gb ssd for 40/50. It really depends on my timing.


So yeah... much faster boot time is worth it.
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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22 Mar 2014 10:05 AM
what do you mean ssds arent worth it? ssds improve boot and loading times and makes the system as a whole more fast and responsive. only using one drive for anything, especially an hdd, can greatly reduce its lifetime prematurely.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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22 Mar 2014 10:08 AM
"what do you mean ssds arent worth it? ssds improve boot and loading times and makes the system as a whole more fast and responsive."

ssds improve performance, but not enough to warrant their incredibly high price tag at this point
once they become more common and go down in price they'll be worth it


i personally got a fancy case mostly to show off, but huge cases also have more room for expansion and generally better airflow
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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22 Mar 2014 10:18 AM
you can get a 256GB ssd for around $110 and a 128 for around $80
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Propellerhead is not online. Propellerhead
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22 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
"you can get a 256GB ssd for around $110 and a 128 for around $80"

just so you know the title says "save money on your pc builds"
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campo2000 is not online. campo2000
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22 Mar 2014 01:41 PM
@fx
Intel CPU's have 32% more performance/core.
Also, intel's hyperthreaded cores technically count as double cores.

"Let's celebrate, I'll treat you to ramen!"
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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22 Mar 2014 02:44 PM
OK so the intel I7 is like 8 or 9 cores or sth? and 6 ghz?
But I would still stick with the amd fx 8350 because well.... It's cheaper and I don't really have that much money...
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tjlnintendo is not online. tjlnintendo
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22 Mar 2014 02:47 PM
what is the average amount of money will all this cost?
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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22 Mar 2014 03:17 PM
@tjl
building a pc including operating system, monitor, and keyboard/mouse would cost 700-800 bucks for a budget build
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Samastrike is not online. Samastrike
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22 Mar 2014 03:23 PM
@fd
Where on earth did you pull 6GHz from?
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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22 Mar 2014 03:32 PM
from some other thread, Someone said that it's like 1.1 Ghz per core.
So I did the math. I got it wrong
8.8 ghz sry.
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