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Re: I don't think a manned mars mission is entirely necessary

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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:30 PM
It's become a great cliche of astronomy. Places like Titan which have less gravity and more promise of life, plus greater potential for space tourism are far better choices.

On titan, it's even possible to fly a hot air balloon and refuel it simply by putting a pump into the nearest lake. Also pressure suits aren't required, so mobility is far easier. Working with the moon and Mars EVA suits are like working with a beach ball between your arms, but Titan exploration suits can be made thin, due to the thicker atmosphere.
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yoyomynameisjoe66 is not online. yoyomynameisjoe66
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21 Mar 2014 02:32 PM
and? did anybody ask what you think?
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:33 PM
Also, warp technology should be looked into right now. Warping space is possible, and even though it's improbable that we ever will be able to do this, it's better that we try it sooner rather than later
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yoyomynameisjoe66 is not online. yoyomynameisjoe66
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21 Mar 2014 02:34 PM
I agree thank you for sharing this.
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OTPurpleRain is not online. OTPurpleRain
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21 Mar 2014 02:34 PM
We could actually do so much amazing stuff right now
But instead, the government decides to spend all that money for war instead

EXCUSE ME WHILE I KISS THE SKY
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:35 PM
@yoyo

yeah because everything has to be provoked. I only breathe when someone tells me to and only ever post when someone else posts something on the subject right before I do. Because that's how threads work, obviously
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neongoo51 is not online. neongoo51
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21 Mar 2014 02:35 PM
It takes two years to travel to mars.

...Yup.

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DynamicFail is not online. DynamicFail
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21 Mar 2014 02:35 PM
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:37 PM
@purple

If we're ever going to visit or be visited by aliens, we should have a united republic to greet them. Not a corrupt shambles of bickering fat cats that hardly represent a group that makes up more than 10% of the population.
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fang13674 is not online. fang13674
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21 Mar 2014 02:38 PM
voyager 1 got to saturn in around 3 years
it was a fairly light probe
add a crew of people
add supplies
add a bigger engine
add more tools
will you still get there in 3 years
probably not
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:38 PM
@Dynamic

Mars, sadly, but there is such a thing as free velocity, you just orbit once around another planet on your transfer flight and you can get another 8km/s of velocity
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:41 PM
Liquid fuel engines are inefficient, with a specific impulse of about 400 seconds. Fusion engines today are little more than plans but 100% of the fuel is converted into energy, unlike the 2% that is with hydrocarbons.
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robloxguy505123 is not online. robloxguy505123
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21 Mar 2014 02:42 PM
I agree. Titan is a much more promising place to visit. It would also be a great start in colonizing other celestial objects.

cuz science
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:44 PM
Humans are too impatient though, we want instant gratification. Technology to make Titan trips convenient is a long way off. I'm talking about launching these missions around 2100. Until then, we just research and make the Earth a better place.
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Yoshiandluigi3 is not online. Yoshiandluigi3
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21 Mar 2014 02:44 PM
Why make a manned mission to Titan? Titan is extremely far away from Earth, extremely cold, dark, and small. Also weightlessness is a problem on Titan. At least with Mars, it's close to Earth, it's extremely cold (but survivable with a warm suit or something similar), bright, and rather large.

It would take an extreme amount of time to reach Titan but not to reach Mars. It could hypothetically be possible to get over there, but it would cost huge amounts of money to send them and return them to Earth.
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xXcandyXx is not online. xXcandyXx
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21 Mar 2014 02:46 PM
this is logical, i never thought of it this way

but the main thing about the MMM is to see if we can actually live there.

so, for example, we could have those fantasy moon/mars colonies that we've always thought of.

and Titan is even further away, which would take years to get to instead of months.

light gets to jupiter in about 4 light-hours, which is approx. 2.7 billion miles away. since we have not been able to move at the speed of light, this will take more than the MMM, as it would be approximately 6 months, but this would be even more.

take the Voyager 1 and 2, for example. it took 1 3/4 - 2 years to get to Jupiter, traveling at more than 10 miles per second.

the curiosity rover took 6 months to get to Mars. if people get to Mars, then it will be the closest anyone has ever gotten to Jupiter in history.

not to mention, it might be liquid methane (not water) that is hosted on Titan.

my point is, I think the MMM is a good thing to start with. blah blah blah conclusion.
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:48 PM
@Candy

I agree. But that last part about liquid methane, I was saying, is a good thing. It can be used for heating, propellant etc.
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robloxguy505123 is not online. robloxguy505123
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21 Mar 2014 02:49 PM
"not to mention, it might be liquid methane (not water) that is hosted on Titan."

It is actually liquid methane, I'm pretty sure it is, anyway, if I remember. There's no water on Titan.

cuz science
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Gallade300 is not online. Gallade300
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21 Mar 2014 02:51 PM
Also has anyone seen "build the enterprise"?

Pretty interesting
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