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Re: The real reason why I dislike PC as a platform.

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Shovuc is not online. Shovuc
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21 Mar 2014 08:22 AM
I often get accused of being a cactus when it comes to PC talk on here, and I don't think that's true, as I do plan on purchasing a workstation in the future, so I don't hate PC itself.

But I don't like it as a platform for games, because of the architectural differences between different components such as CPUs. Like if I were to make a game, I couldn't code specifically to say...the newest AMD CPU and take advantage of such, or code specifically to a top end Intel CPU and take advantage of hyperthreading.

Not being able to code to a specific architecture, in my opinion, isn't ideal, because you can't get nearly as much performance out of the hardware. Coding to PC, compared to console, is far more abstracted.

TL DR; I don't care for PC as a platform for games because the coding is more abstracted. That doesn't mean I don't like it all together, because PC workstations are very useful.
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:27 AM
Good someone who realised that PCs aren't made for gaming, and are workstations.
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Shovuc is not online. Shovuc
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21 Mar 2014 08:29 AM
@fdxd

Well they can game pretty good, but you can't take advantage of coding to a specific architecture. That's my primary qualm with PC as a gaming platform.
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:31 AM
I never implied that it couldn't game well.
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Shovuc is not online. Shovuc
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21 Mar 2014 08:35 AM
@fdxd

Oh. Well actually now that I think back, there was a time when PCs were very bad at gaming. I remember reading this one story of John Carmack, one of the developers of Doom and Wolfenstein, laboring over trying to create a Mario copy cat on a PC.

He was essentially trying to create a PC version of an NES game, and despite the former being more powerful on paper, due to architectural differences he really had to work to make such a game appear on the platform.
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21 Mar 2014 08:37 AM
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:39 AM
@Hyper
You get a nice 500$ build
The next 5 years, you realise you have a terrible build and have to rebuild again due to raised requirements
In a console you don't have to worry about such things
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21 Mar 2014 08:42 AM
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:43 AM
Then you spend an extra 200$ then it doesn't become cheaper than a console.
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21 Mar 2014 08:45 AM
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:45 AM
Fair point.
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 08:48 AM
Xbone already has the ability to record....
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21 Mar 2014 08:51 AM
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Altair55 is not online. Altair55
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21 Mar 2014 08:55 AM
xbone doesnt run in 1080p let alone record in 1080p
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ItachiUchiha3 is not online. ItachiUchiha3
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21 Mar 2014 09:01 AM
pc is less immersive for me
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titanicaxx is not online. titanicaxx
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21 Mar 2014 09:04 AM
Don't Blame PC Blame your skills FPS is like multitasking like
writing something while shooting someone while flying!

PC is the master of gaming without it battlefield 3 would suck in PS3
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Shovuc is not online. Shovuc
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21 Mar 2014 09:04 AM
@titantic

What are you blabbing on about?
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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21 Mar 2014 09:35 AM
wat

are you aware most PCs run CPUs with the exact same instruction sets, it's irrelevant what the CPUs internal architecture is when it understands the abstracted code anyways, and games generally dont take advantage of multicore CPUs because CPUs aren't generally the bottleneck
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herpalope is not online. herpalope
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21 Mar 2014 10:04 AM
I only life the upgrading, quality, and gameplay (Easier to turn in games)

I dont dislike consoles cause i've played them my entire life.
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21 Mar 2014 10:44 AM
'xbone doesnt run in 1080p let alone record in 1080p'

oh no, this guy stated why he dislikes consoles!
i must proceed to state why PC is superior to xbox one! <-- the way i read it, sorry
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rampagekiller3 is not online. rampagekiller3
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21 Mar 2014 01:53 PM
Mantle is a thing you know, Shovic

Yes, it's not used for every game... or in fact many.

The current gen now allows for multi-core optimization... So I don't know where you are coming from.

BTW, im a grill :^)
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Shovuc is not online. Shovuc
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21 Mar 2014 02:18 PM
"Mantle is a thing you know, Shovic

Yes, it's not used for every game... or in fact many."

Yes, I know what Mantle is. Believe it or not Rampage, I actually follow the industry.

But most PC games use Direct X or Open GL (which is a bit less abstracted, but still), so...
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fdfxd is not online. fdfxd
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21 Mar 2014 02:43 PM
@Rampage
By many games you mean Frostbite 3 engine games?
And a lot of people don't have AMD. I would personally ditch AMD for Nvidia for CUDA. Mantle is AMD only ATM.
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