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Re: Stormcloaks or Empire?

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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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22 Oct 2012 09:14 PM
Discuss.
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GeckoFPS is not online. GeckoFPS
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22 Oct 2012 09:15 PM
Empire
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88dragon6 is not online. 88dragon6
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22 Oct 2012 09:16 PM
Empire

Thanks for the two Daedric swords General Tullius.
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supershadow2113 is not online. supershadow2113
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22 Oct 2012 09:16 PM
I played stormcloaks for my first play through,

then for my second playthrough as an archer I played as the empire and was one shotting stormcloaks with my bound bow
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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22 Oct 2012 09:17 PM
Me:
*Kills a Stormcloak*
"Democrats."
And, in case you were wondering, the Aldmeri do indeed represent the economy.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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22 Oct 2012 09:26 PM
Stormcloak.

Ulfric is actually a really cool guy once you actually get on good terms with him.

That ending to the Stormcloak questline really got me mad though, as they completely ignored me in the speech.

let's cut his feet off
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88dragon6 is not online. 88dragon6
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22 Oct 2012 09:28 PM
When I first joined the Stormcloaks, I joined as a High Elf.
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CrossArmsALT4 is not online. CrossArmsALT4
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16 Mar 2014 05:35 AM
Empire.

At first I was neutral, but my experience with the Stormcloaks was that they are racist jerks.

"skyrim belongs to da nords!!"

Yeah, but the nords technically speaking didn't originate from skyrim, so it doesn't really make sense to be xenophobic to people travelling to skyrim, now does it?

They just assume that because I'm a khajiit I must be a thief or a skooma dealer (okay, so this might be true, but still)

Without the empire it would be a bunch of constantly warring clans, and no unity in power.
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Mouseworks is not online. Mouseworks
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16 Mar 2014 06:04 AM
stormclaoks
your all forgetting the crucial evidence

the empire raided skyrim and brought in elfs to lead skyrim,skyrim belonged to nords
empire banned talos,we shud praise who we want
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shan780 is not online. shan780
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16 Mar 2014 06:16 AM
@mouseworks
you're forgetting that the elves were winning the war previously and the empire needs skyrim to help them
only unified can they defeat the elves, and the elves know this, and as such, view ulfric as subconsciously helping them
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CrossArmsALT4 is not online. CrossArmsALT4
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16 Mar 2014 07:09 AM
@Mouseworks


"skyrim belonged to nords"

ahahaha no

it wasn't even theirs to begin with

they invaded and took it for themselves, now they believe it is righteously theirs

admittedly this was centuries ago but still

"empire banned talos,we shud praise who we want2"

fair point

stormcloaks are such xenophobic racists that I didn't feel compelled to join them

I get racist insults from guards all the time D:

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roblox09890 is not online. roblox09890
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16 Mar 2014 08:38 AM
empire

because i was too lazy to find out where to become a stormcloak

#jrpgshasbadstories
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wastefultreeman is not online. wastefultreeman
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16 Mar 2014 08:56 AM
Empire. The walk was easier/shorter

~Waste
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Xiord is not online. Xiord
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16 Mar 2014 09:05 AM
If I had to choose, Stormcloaks. However, I'd like to run in there, and make it a major free-for-all.
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Mar 2014 10:36 AM
I went with the Empire
Skyrim NEVER belonged to the Nords
If I remember the lore correctly, the Nords CAME to Skyrim from ATMORA, AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONTINENT
Then they set up a settlement called Saarthal but the Snow Elves massacred them in the Night of Tears
So the survivors left
Then later, Ysgramor(OF ATMORA) came to Skyrim(FROM ATMORA) with the 500 Companions(AKA WARRIORS OF ATMORA) and basically killed all the elves in the area from what I understand

Then again, in this sense, Hammerfell doesn't really belong to the Redguards because they came to Tamriel from Yokuda
but Yokuda sank into the ocean so its different

ɪғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀɴ/ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏᴡᴇʀ/ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ɪᴛ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴏʟ/sᴏᴍᴇ ʜᴇᴀᴅs ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏɴɴᴀ ʀᴏʟʟ
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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16 Mar 2014 10:38 AM
Neither
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pwnzordude6000 is not online. pwnzordude6000
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16 Mar 2014 10:39 AM
Stormcloaks are racist.

The Empire are the equivalent of slavers.

Both kind of suck.
Pick your poison.
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Mar 2014 10:48 AM
In defense of the Stormcloaks
The Nords WERE massacred by Snow Elves
But against them they're pretty racist towards anyone who isn't a Nord
I mean, they couldn't even give Argonians a place to live IN the city
though that might be to stop the Dark Elves and Argonians from ruining the city more than it already is

ɪғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀɴ/ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏᴡᴇʀ/ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ɪᴛ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴏʟ/sᴏᴍᴇ ʜᴇᴀᴅs ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏɴɴᴀ ʀᴏʟʟ
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skyrim1762 is not online. skyrim1762
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16 Mar 2014 11:12 AM
Stormcloaks
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daveism is not online. daveism
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16 Mar 2014 11:47 AM
"Yeah, but the nords technically speaking didn't originate from skyrim, so it doesn't really make sense to be xenophobic to people travelling to skyrim, now does it?"

yes they did

the atmorans didn't, they originated from atmora but conquered skyrim in prehistoric times, then they became the nords
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BingoWasHisNamo12 is not online. BingoWasHisNamo12
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16 Mar 2014 11:48 AM
"That ending to the Stormcloak questline really got me mad though, as they completely ignored me in the speech."

You have to pick the "I'd be honored" speech option after Ulfric asks you if you'll stand by his side.

Anyway, FOR THE TRUE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF SKYRIM!
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Mar 2014 11:52 AM
"You have to pick the "I'd be honored" speech option after Ulfric asks you if you'll stand by his side.

Anyway, FOR THE TRUE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF SKYRIM!"

"You need to stand next to me to have done anything in the war"

ɪғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀɴ/ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏᴡᴇʀ/ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ɪᴛ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴏʟ/sᴏᴍᴇ ʜᴇᴀᴅs ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏɴɴᴀ ʀᴏʟʟ
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daveism is not online. daveism
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16 Mar 2014 11:54 AM
"I went with the Empire
Skyrim NEVER belonged to the Nords
If I remember the lore correctly, the Nords CAME to Skyrim from ATMORA, AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONTINENT
Then they set up a settlement called Saarthal but the Snow Elves massacred them in the Night of Tears
So the survivors left
Then later, Ysgramor(OF ATMORA) came to Skyrim(FROM ATMORA) with the 500 Companions(AKA WARRIORS OF ATMORA) and basically killed all the elves in the area from what I understand"

you remember it incorrectly

the nords descend from the atmorans, who were the ones who settled skyrim at first, pretty much making the nords native to skyrim

there are actually only like two races that could have any claim to skyrim, and that's the nords and the snow elves. one of them is mostly extinct and the other is a thriving, fluorishing culture

also, the near-extinction of the snow elves is because of the dwemer, who enslaved them and made them into the falmer, who are not snow elves
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BingoWasHisNamo12 is not online. BingoWasHisNamo12
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16 Mar 2014 11:56 AM
"You need to stand next to me to have done anything in the war"

No, it's just the other option is "You'd better leave me out of your speech..."
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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16 Mar 2014 11:57 AM
wait no when I said the elf massacre
I was thinking of Talos not Ysgramor
never mind
Also I was hoping there would be some kind of DLC where the Falmer could be somewhat reasonable, building on what the Snow Elf Knight-Paladin said during the quest in the Forgotten Vale

ɪғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀɴ/ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏᴡᴇʀ/ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ɪᴛ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴏʟ/sᴏᴍᴇ ʜᴇᴀᴅs ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏɴɴᴀ ʀᴏʟʟ
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