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Re: Ok, prove demand>Rarity

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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:06 PM
>95% of items above 100k are rare, while less than 95% have good+ demand
>If emp had 500 stock, but 10x better demand, it would be more like CF, while if it had no demand but the same stock as it is now (26), it would still be a lot more

Bring on your flawed and biased logic.
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:08 PM
B1
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:11 PM
B2

And the demand>'s fall silent.
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15 Mar 2014 08:12 PM
cwhp+cws can get me tls very easily


cwhp+cws according to you is 80k

tls according to you is 180k



proof
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15 Mar 2014 08:13 PM
the reason why you people are confused is because your values are wrong.

they need to be adjusted to suit what they actually go for, and be revolved around cco items.


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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:13 PM
Yes, but you need two amazing demand items for a bad rare.
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:13 PM
@web
I agree, but that's the problem. The true rares, with nearly none left in circulation, wouldn't change values. All of the demand items would.
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15 Mar 2014 08:14 PM
where are you coming up with this lol, no you don't.
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15 Mar 2014 08:14 PM
the "true rares" would change values depending on what they can get.


if they can't get 500k they're not worth 500k.



it's very simple
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:15 PM
So 1v1, a demand item can get a rare? I think not. Also, TLS is a lot more.
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15 Mar 2014 08:16 PM
rstf can easily get chryso

eotf can easily get gaze of soccom

dotf can easily get gr



and lol at a lot more.


you are living in the clouds op.
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:17 PM
@web
I know, but they never get traded. To name a few:
Telamon Hair
Skeleton Lord
Chronold--sort of
CoR--sort of
DA
Memento Mori
Basically most 4/1 items
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15 Mar 2014 08:18 PM
"rstf can easily get chryso

eotf can easily get gaze of soccom

dotf can easily get gr



and lol at a lot more.


you are living in the clouds op."

rstf is rare
eotf is rare
dotf is rare

That's the thing. All of the items in your argument are rare.
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15 Mar 2014 08:18 PM
I'll give you MM but that's all you're getting (I've owned it a lot)


all of those others are bomb shells that go for 70% less than what you say they are worth.


proving that demand>rarity
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15 Mar 2014 08:20 PM
by the same logic I can go ahead and say items with 10k stock are rare because there are millions of accounts and only 10k of the items

the items you are talking about, your rares, are low demand rares.



again proving demand>
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15 Mar 2014 08:20 PM
Actually, so you know, skeleton lord(a rare)x4 went for RSTF(500k at the time, also a rare) like 8 months ago. That is one of the last times it was traded. SimpleStar did it. Most of them do, but they'll always be more than the pure-demand and not-so-rare items.
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15 Mar 2014 08:21 PM
do you know I gave bozy for red grind like 8 months ago



how does this bare any relevance to what we are talking about, values change, devex happened, demand and rarity have also changed.
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:21 PM
Ok, the final argument:


When rarity is around the same, demand comes into play. When the rarity is different, 9/10 times the rarity is greater than the one with demand. The rarity determines the range of an item's value, and the demand sets it.
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15 Mar 2014 08:24 PM
what do you mean comes into play, demand is always a major factor lol?

and new years crown is rarer than all of the sparkle times, so why is it worth so much less if "rarity determines the range of an item's value"
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:26 PM
Because they have the same rarity as the sparkle times, which is when demand comes into play.
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jjkickflip is not online. jjkickflip
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15 Mar 2014 08:26 PM
i believe they both work hand in hand
ive neva seen anyone get this deep into something to stupid lawl
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15 Mar 2014 08:29 PM
"Because they have the same rarity as the sparkle times"

No they don't lol

we just established this, why can't you understand something so simple?
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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15 Mar 2014 08:33 PM
You're missing the basic statement though. The sparkle times are rares, along with domini, DC, WWC, federations, EST, :( hats, etc. Their demand didn't increase their price to what they are now. Rarity did.
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VampireDestiny is not online. VampireDestiny
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15 Mar 2014 08:34 PM
Values
Are
Not
Based
Around
CCCO
Items
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Zephile is not online. Zephile
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15 Mar 2014 08:38 PM
demand and rarity increased the value
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