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Re: Alright then, we need to fix "values", please click

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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 09:53 AM
Alright LMaDers

We need to fix values to fix this corrupted forum, or even economy
We have to do something to get realistic values

The thing is values of trades maybe accurate theoretically because the value is what makes the item WORTH getting, or what the item gets

But we just keep the same values...

Like I said in the past thread

Items like SCYTHEFACE RICS and such, need to be publically fixed

So any suggestions how we can fix each value?

Like let's make a project called international realistic values of items? We will make a group and we will sort out items worth in each thread and the sales and demand ?
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Qaeo is not online. Qaeo
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06 Mar 2014 09:54 AM
i should accept V* x3 for ac then?
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 09:55 AM
Qa

Nope
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miggyger is not online. miggyger
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06 Mar 2014 09:55 AM
pff

everyone shud rap trade

idgaf about wwc


then someone counter what i said," get 4 nvgs "
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Qaeo is not online. Qaeo
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06 Mar 2014 09:55 AM
kk
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trail39 is not online. trail39
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06 Mar 2014 09:55 AM
So say vesp goes on a hype and gets DC 1v1 you will tell me DC drops?
Items aren't to blame for a demand hype

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CoinBank is not online. CoinBank
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06 Mar 2014 09:57 AM
I think it's a good idea
i'm sick of hearing "Retros=120K" when they get bsf to add
and crap like that
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 09:57 AM
Their wouldn't be any realistic way. If you think vesp may go with do 1 vs 1

No


That means that the current demand is higher

But still DC has high demand

But if you compare that with cco and SCYTHEFACE in the 100k corner

SCYTHEFACE compared to them has no demand while cco does
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trail39 is not online. trail39
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06 Mar 2014 09:58 AM
It was an example not literal

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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:00 AM
Yes IK trail xD

And I did explain it if it was that way
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oventop is not online. oventop
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06 Mar 2014 10:02 AM
values r what the item basically obtaines in offers


but bsdc is starting to get v*, and bsdc has higher value



it doesnt rlly make sense

i say, #raptraderevolution
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TheAureusRobloxian is not online. TheAureusRobloxian
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06 Mar 2014 10:03 AM
This ecommity is mucked up roblox will never be fixed
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wardudeweather is not online. wardudeweather
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06 Mar 2014 10:07 AM
RIcs is 40k but you could say 35k and raise the demand.... Because it does have more volume now. It gets cwhp

Scythe is like 100k max
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:08 AM
@oven

I got an explanation

Void has more demand, and can it hits demand get Vesp with adding easier than with BSDC(worst case scenario for next week)
BSDC has decent demand, but not as much as void

The exact same case happens when people give BsF for cco and gains lesser value

But it's actually not a win, neither a loss
It's what people can do with items, sell them for more
Because when we go solo trading with items such as cf, we don't really get much, same for BsF
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:10 AM
RICS is not 40k
And not 35k

And no this is complete crap of the concept lowering the price, raising the demand

Not correct at all

Because IT HAS TO Be a permenant value which is Concretly approved by realistic price selling and offers it gets with trades
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Mortalem is not online. Mortalem
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06 Mar 2014 10:11 AM
But there's like 2 values for one item
One for downgrading and one for upgrading
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wardudeweather is not online. wardudeweather
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06 Mar 2014 10:13 AM
Like what mort said.

I get 35-40k offers on RIcs downgrading, but if I send it in an upgrade trade, subtracting upgrade fee makes it 30k
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trail39 is not online. trail39
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06 Mar 2014 10:13 AM
@Bah, here is the reason I disagree:

1) According to you this hype will eventually drop items to 0 value
EX: scythe=150k drops to 100k demand>all currently so people now offer CWHP alone and it drops to 50k etc.

2) Demand was always considered into the value
EX:
Before: RICS=40k get CWHP 5k fee for demand
Now: RICS=40k get CF 15k fee for demand ALL low demands do this huge fee now

3) This is a hype, it usually dies eventually, without stabilization values will bounce all over

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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:13 AM
@mor


No, incorrect

People do that for estimating the accuracy seeing what they can mostly get in the two cases
Downgrading and upgrading is equal in any shape, maybe one has higher demand in something,but mostly no,give me any example and il set you an equation or an answer
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Mortalem is not online. Mortalem
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06 Mar 2014 10:16 AM
Ok why does dh go for 1.6m in upgrade then 1.4m in downgrade
Now way it's equal when there is 200k gap
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:18 AM
@Trail


Wrong sir, I disagree

Why?

Their are money reasons people downgrade for such rates

1.Desperation

People are desperate for incredibly high demand such as ccco and find no way out

2.Demand

The demand is a factor, a permenant factor, but doesn't conclude even 40% of the items worth

The items are valued by the sales, the trade offers and the theoretical worth

And SCYTHEFACE in that scenario happens to die because
Ccco becomes a revolution rising, and has more demand than literally any other item common
And SCYTHEFACE has lower sales
And SCYTHEFACE HAS NO DEMAND COMPARED TO CCCO
but let's go by BsF

BsF compared to ccco, is still lower demand, but BsF does have decent demand
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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:19 AM
@mortal
it depends on

1.The items and its demand
2.other reasons such as personal ones
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trail39 is not online. trail39
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06 Mar 2014 10:24 AM
Then why not raise high demand items? high demand should be treated as a fee rather then a value

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baheeg is not online. baheeg
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06 Mar 2014 10:27 AM
Because


They aren't really what it seems to be happening

Cf alone for instance goss for the range 25-28

How about two classic fedoras? Goes for high due to the increase of demand compared to others

Items are valued by solo, but the demand does raise compared to others, leading to what happens today
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trail39 is not online. trail39
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06 Mar 2014 10:32 AM
I think the values should stick unless say 80 low demand goes for 150klow demand constantly. High demand is being treated like it's own system, this shouldn't ruin other items because it's treated better then low demand.

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