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05 Mar 2014 01:00 PM
They're really just brown nosing campers, so sum it all up.


VAC, VAK, only camp there to 'look good' in order to brown nose higher ranks,
or the group owner,
for a promotion.

In reality their actions while being at the official VAK maps are of little to no
tactical value what so ever.




'Lets get some guys together,
make a crowd of people,
lets find the attacking crowd,
i.e raiders,
& lets just spam users at each other & call it 'war'.'
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05 Mar 2014 01:00 PM
Average SMO defender, "Look at my perfect KD of 7-0 promote me please?"

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no clover you suspect hacker like movements
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05 Mar 2014 01:18 PM
"Your*"
It is actually "You're"*
As he said *You are unskilled*.

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lol e9 just rekt the vakkies.

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05 Mar 2014 01:43 PM
E9 is wrong though

Because that's not how you get promoted
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05 Mar 2014 01:53 PM
"E9 is wrong though
Because that's not how you get promoted"
--It wasn't the methodology of getting promoted that's in question, it's the methodology of defending that is.

They defend because they want a promotion,
not because they want to be there to ensure 100% total & complete tactical victory on behalf of the clan they are in.

Because this is so, their actions are only dictated by what the higher ranks say, not what specific tactics should actually be applied for the exact raider v defender scenario,
which is the contributing factor to a lower percentage of efficiency.





Example, all one needs to do, to entirely stop any raider's advance, is camp within a tight radius of where the raiders come from, i.e caves, spawns, behind a gate, where it may be, & bottleneck them there & not let anyone exceed the formation.

In place of this,
I often see VAC's crowding higher ranks,
talking about getting promoted,
or other VAK's or whatever talking about other VAK's, or VAK current events,
& or anything & everything that has nothing to do with actually defending the base itself to the best of their ability.



Really same concept applies to all bases & all clans,
if only the clan owners actually knew the advantages their own map layouts hold,
they would easily be able to stifle any kind of opposing force, no matter the opposition's skill.
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omfg can you stop making like 10 paragraphs for a 2 sentence reply
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05 Mar 2014 01:55 PM
"VAC, VAK, only camp there to 'look good' in order to brown nose higher ranks,
or the group owner,
for a promotion.

In reality their actions while being at the official VAK maps are of little to no
tactical value what so ever."

>>So using cover isn't a tactic? Using cover effectively IS a tactic. Also look at the VAC wall; You don't get promotions from patrolling. It's SPECIFIC areas of fighting. So your point is invalid and false good sir.
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">>So using cover isn't a tactic? Using cover effectively IS a tactic. Also look at the VAC wall; You don't get promotions from patrolling. It's SPECIFIC areas of fighting. So your point is invalid and false good sir."

"You don't get promotions from patrolling."
--
>Absolutely no incentive to even be at a base other than to brown nose or just chat with other players.
>Resulting tactical outcome is unsound as 'even jsut being there to fight', isn't on anyone's minds

"It's SPECIFIC areas of fighting."
--Training, brown nosing.
Person teaching the training passes you along for recommendation, & or promotes you.
It's no more about skill, than it is about trying to bend your skill to fit the instructors criteria of his personal point of view of what skill is.

I mean if we could just like;
'Cut the useless social BS',
out of roblox warfare,
this game would be very different.





--Bottom line, practical tactics.

Preventing larger problems, is the solve all in war.

If you're taking cover from someone else,
that means they're advancing on you,
or have larger numbers.

If either of these are true, than you didn't take enough precautions in order to stop this from happening.
If one was to simply issue an order to have all men surround the choke point in which all raiders must pass through, you can hold the entire map without even being in a flag room/objective area.


Battle of thermopylae,
300 Spartans versus millions of Persians.
If it was a flat out field,
the Persians would simply win due to numbers,
because they can all out rush them & no matter the skill of the 300,
they will become over run eventually.

Difference in the battle of thermopylae, was that there was a narrow passage that all invaders absolutely had to pass through,
in order to get to an objective area.

The Persians send their millions through the narrow passage,
well they all can't fit now can they,
so they go in with smaller numbers at a time,
say 300 or so.
In effect what this is, is 300 vs 300, just the Persians have the men to keep resending another 300 after the first 300 are killed.
Only difference in a 300 vs 300, is the skill in which the 300 vs the 300 fight.
If there's 300 skilled people, vs 300 unskilled, the unskilled loose.

This simply like 300 skilled soldiers vs 300 unskilled soldier a thousand times.

Their numbers are meaningless so long as only small portions of their greater numbers are getting past.







In effect what I'm saying, is if you're thinking that;
'I need to go find cover', ect, is the best tactic at your disposal, you're wrong.
Who's shoulders does the responsibility of the tactics fall upon, the leader & higher ranks.
If the leader & higher ranks told you to do this, than you're following it by the book.

Again, simply doing as you were told in order to get a promotion.
Not, the most effective means at your disposal simply because 'taking cover', is an end result to a previous choice, the resulting not being needed if the initial choice were to be better.







Which brings me to point B:
"Omg, E9, who cares about your tactics & all your lessons & stuff"
^
Difference between the skilled, & unskilled.
Simply what I'm getting at.
If you simply do not consider this kind of thing,
you will never understand it, & or employ it.
Or you just don't care, either or.
Either way, both are reasons why nobody uses/realizes there are tactics like this.


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05 Mar 2014 02:19 PM
e9 can you not

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