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| 03 Mar 2014 02:12 PM |
So, Mr. Dimste, Obtention, Obtism, Magmorticus, Charles, Chaz... I don't care what you need to be called. This is about you and what you've done.
You have worked time and time to contrive groups such as The Sovereign Dominion using Project Ascendance as your endowment. Before you conclude with the mistakes of my past let's begin to go over things that you have tried to claim against me (or put against me) over the time you've returned and compare it to our past in TSD.
Let's think about the Dominion, Chaz. What you and I accomplished together was a great thing, and the insubordination of my own power hungry mistakes (such as claiming the credit for Dmoney's credit) was apart of this. The last 3 weeks of the Dominion had all been worked on by me and me only. Your Project Widespread idea had been spread by me and you planned to make TSD better with it. The highest progress and bet you were getting with that group is 15 to a training (that had to be scheduled) and like 25 to raids (only if I PMed people a day in advance to attend, shouted, made a forum, etc.), demoralizing yourself over a girl, continuing to act stupid on the forums, etc.
I've kept telling you the same thing in words... Do good, good come? You agreed to do good and made me bite the bullet half the time. I remember going as far as helping you by even typing your entire public apology to groups like RAA and Tza who may have been completely disrespectful and nonchalant while you sat there taking a war as serious as raiding on New Years Eve for 7-8 hours, or during the CN war, leaking private information or what'd you say as "twisting crystal's ovaries." A prime example is when you recorded Crystal telling you that CN is not ready at all, thus completely destroying her trust on you and the group, leaving me as a reliable go-to-guy.
The final days of TSD were just you dropping mistakes all over the place (including your own dinner, feel free to post those stupid DizastaMusic videos as a response) and completely screwing things over. Taking off ROBLOX for a week for what you claim to be "personal issues" coincidentally after you and I both know you were denied by some girl and took it to a note where you were calling yourself a sociopath or some crap I didn't wish to hear as your 2nd in Command but couldn't know what to say as your 'brother' or 'friend.' I had absolutely no response for the load of crap you were trailing on for such time, sorry I didn't seem like much of a help.
So finally, I decide to leave the Dominion. All of which work was desolated like charred wood or chucked into an incandescent fire place of scorching dispose. I left peacefully with a note to Colanians, letting them know what they will be dealing with. Not a progressing downfall as it seemed or something still happening days later but the entire Officer Core torn apart in a matter of half an hour.
Here you are, Obtention. Creating another group. Yet another group you claim not to be "generic" but using the same old shield with a bunch of Star Wars. Like your last group, an adjective in the group's name thrown in front of a word faction. You might as well call it "The Superior Organization" in which it exactly means. Not to mention creating lore that will never come to use, but there, just by all story-writing means.
There's even times in TGI or VAK when you screwed up and everybody stopped liking you. Losing defenses on VAK in TGI by making stupid videos, let alone making stupid videos. Faking a lot of crap on jimcarrey/Magmorticus (we know this). You focus too much on hurting others when you can't your OWN emotions together.
Why do I make fun of your name here? You had absolutely no problem making fun of The Steel Gladium when your argument was "Gladium was a word made up by Dan!" TSG's name is forged by the idea of "The Iron Fist," or something practical. For instance, The Grand Imperium, "The Great Empire." Gladium was a guild on GW2 also that was mainly warband. It evolved around unity, which came to my ideas.
You walk around presuming I have copied your group when the extreme intention was to give every one of my buddies what they wanted and establish similarities to the point it'd be just like TSD, without the same action's unfolds you pursued in your own group. The group will change over time, believe that. Over time it'll downspout and when your group comes out it may even go as far as die. Do you think that's going to stop me?
I've got extreme back up, and plenty of ideas that I can produce with people like TPHG or good old (old) timers.
There wasn't any doubt my group would crash and burn in the foreseeable future but there will be no way in hell I'd be giving up because you're going to drive me nuts. I made this out of my own personal despite for you, Obtention, what you have done over time should be recognized like the things I have. I once loved you like a brother and I continued to carry on about how TSD would persevere and we would be brothers against this game, creating new ideas and innovating a group of loyalist. You made it hard for me to stick around by driving out all my friends with the things you would do on the forums and I was getting tired of it.
The malevolence I held in when you returned to ROBLOX and very (very) briefly apologized to me over XF. Claiming you would not recruit TSG members, when you did. Lysander being a dumbfounded hypocrite on the forums, you being a complete moron when I was raiding Celeste, and a plethora of BS you pulled yesterday trying to call me the bad guy.
There is a reason I do not want people in my group affiliating with you, Obtention. They should not share the same fate as I.
I shall not be hindered nor yielded by your insubordination in the foreseeable future and no one else should. Your bound to drop down again and anything you do will become dust when you realize so much of C&G will eventually be against you again as well as the TGI and your old foes. Your arrogance will overcome you again, Chaz.
TL;DR: None. All I can say is what you may see with Obtention will eventuate to be a disappointment.
Adieu. |
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:14 PM |
taking credit for Dmoney's promotion*
~The Steel Sovereign~ |
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:14 PM |
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:16 PM |
| Gust, still not understanding. |
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Unimatum
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:19 PM |
@Boost
http://youtu.be/HoWDthfDya4?t=14s
ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY "LICK THE RAINBOW" -masterscripterian/Stratisium - |
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Syncretic
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:26 PM |
I still don't understand why we can't join his group.
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bohdan77
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:28 PM |
Well, i'm not taking any sides or whatever, but gust specifically stated why you can't join Obtention's group.
'There is a reason I do not want people in my group affiliating with you, Obtention. They should not share the same fate as I.'
That's his reason anyhow. |
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Syncretic
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| 03 Mar 2014 02:33 PM |
"There is a reason I do not want people in my group affiliating with you, Obtention. They should not share the same fate as I."
Prag changed, and TSG is a lot better than his previous clans.
Explain to me why Obtention can't? |
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Dimste
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:04 PM |
Sweet niblets! That's a lot of words. Alright, I'll highlight the parts that are important and correctable.
> "demoralizing yourself over a girl"
lolnope
> "I've kept telling you the same thing in words... Do good, good come?"
You never told me that, lol.
> "You agreed to do good and made me bite the bullet half the time."
You and your metaphors.
> "I remember going as far as helping you by even typing your entire public apology to groups like RAA and Tza who may have been completely disrespectful and nonchalant while you sat there taking a war as serious as raiding on New Years Eve for 7-8 hours,"
I appreciated that, even though I was arrogant, I was standing up for myself and what I believed was right. I do not regret the second part of me throughout the Dominion, period.
> "or during the CN war, leaking private information or what'd you say as "twisting crystal's ovaries.""
Yeah, the first part was going over the edge, I agree. However, I'm not really a fan of clans who decline wars from legitimate clans. But the rest if it, and that quote, was merely a joke. Crystal knows it's a joke and she's over it, ask her yourself, lol.
> "A prime example is when you recorded Crystal telling you that CN is not ready at all, thus completely destroying her trust on you and the group, leaving me as a reliable go-to-guy."
Propaganda, duh. It's too perfect to pass up by; plus, you yourself were laughing at me when I told you I recorded it.
> "The final days of TSD were just you dropping mistakes all over the place (including your own dinner, feel free to post those stupid DizastaMusic videos as a response)"
1. lol you call filthy frank by his channel name
2. If you thought I was like, completely throwing some sort of temper tantrum over it, you're silly. I was only a bit mad, the other part was just me laughing at myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hnm8AjG3w4 (:3!)
> "Taking off ROBLOX for a week for what you claim to be "personal issues" coincidentally after you and I both know you were denied by some girl and took it to a note where you were calling yourself a sociopath or some crap I didn't wish to hear as your 2nd in Command but couldn't know what to say as your 'brother' or 'friend.' I had absolutely no response for the load of crap you were trailing on for such time, sorry I didn't seem like much of a help."
1. I am a sociopath, and I like being one. :D
2. Please, no one I know is smart enough to handle and/or help with someone else's issues other than myself.
example: you and your problems roughly a year ago, or maybe even the time you called me at 1-2AM sobbing about stuff ROBLOX would censor
3. If I did have your perspective on the issue I was having, I would see it as a silly thing. Unfortunately, the only person I see as smart enough to have a decent perspective would be NewbControl, seeing as he knows a thing or two in psychology.
"Here you are, Obtention. Creating another group. Yet another group you claim not to be "generic" but using the same old shield with a bunch of Star Wars."
LOL "STAR WARS"
And you use a shield too, so does UCR. Because I used it once, does that revoke my right to use it? ;(
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a law against this, officer!
"Like your last group, an adjective in the group's name thrown in front of a word faction. You might as well call it "The Superior Organization" in which it exactly means."
This is coming from the guy with a group named 'The Steel Sword'
plus, a federation is a form of government.
What, you think I'm going to use a race as the middle word, or make it a one-word group, or even WORSE, an element?
"Not to mention creating lore that will never come to use, but there, just by all story-writing means."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhh0IjcroA
Ooh, bad answer.
The Lore is going to play a heavy role in this clan.
It's funny, because I've said this about many other generic clans, who don't give a hoot about their lore, they only know about the race and the name of the planet.
"There's even times in TGI or VAK when you screwed up and everybody stopped liking you."
> I was 12 in VAK
"Losing defenses on VAK in TGI by making stupid videos"
LMFAO
'ur videos caused us to lose a defense!!!!'
Jesus christ, you sound worse than boost did when he first accused me.
> "You walk around presuming I have copied your group"
Presuming you copied my group?
I *know*, you copied my group. You make it way too damn obvious, lol.
> "I made this out of my own personal despite for you, Obtention, what you have done over time should be recognized like the things I have."
Wait wait wait, are you trying to hop on to my credit for the ideas and planned infrastructure for TSD?
Were you there when I was planning this group? Hell no, you were too busy raiding TRA with Frigid.
> "You made it hard for me to stick around by driving out all my friends with the things you would do on the forums and I was getting tired of it."
Oh yeah, your 'friends,' who constantly called you names, just because you're in a group on game?
Gee, you must have a low expectation for a 'friend.'
> "The malevolence I held in when you returned to ROBLOX and very (very) briefly apologized to me over XF. Claiming you would not recruit TSG members, when you did."
1. I apologized to you before I returned, EVEN through all the crap you gave me. If anything, I deserved an apology for you leaking secrets I trusted you with, calling me out even after the countless number of times I helped you while I was serving under you in Sleet Clan, holding your secrets, even after the number of fights we had with each other in the past.
Oh well, just goes to show that I shouldn't make more than one true friend on this game. I appreciate the lesson, but your half of the bargain will be released shortly, with Story Time with Obtention! ;)
2. Rezenex joined on his own, and I believe the graphic designer did too. Possibly not, but don't act like I asked all your developers to join me, lol.
My current developers are not in your development team, except for Zusik. And he joined Project Outbreak first!
> "Lysander being a dumbfounded hypocrite on the forums, you being a complete moron when I was raiding Celeste, and a plethora of BS you pulled yesterday trying to call me the bad guy."
1. Don't act as if you were not flaming him in return, calling him 'Lycancer.' Hell, I even heard from him that you continue calling him out with that nickname even after the agreements and my continued tolerance to you, apologizing and what not, and before the argument at Celeste yesterday!
2. Oh *PLEASE*. You continued to say 'rekt,' so did I. I said 'rekt' to you, and after the back and forth 'rekts' we gave to one another, you said:
'lol obtention ur bad just like all your group ideas'
And after all the crap you gave me when you left TSD, the continued crap while TSG was built, the BS when I returned, I thought it was about time I put my foot down and stood up for myself, rather than taking a smack like that, and said:
'if my group ideas were so bad you wouldn't have copied them'
> "TL;DR: None. All I can say is what you may see with Obtention will eventuate to be a disappointment."
What I make will be less of a disappointment than copying another guy's infrastructural plots for a group! |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:11 PM |
too lazy to reply to a bunch of "LOLs" and general idiocy (first of all starting at wait wait wait working your way down to claiming steel is an element)
anywho... i'll be waiting for story time as a good laugh
~The Steel Sovereign~ |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:12 PM |
yeah obtention steel is an ALLOY not an element.
seriously man. |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:18 PM |
| I got to agree with obtention. I think TSG is a copy of TSD. |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:19 PM |
lmao smooks really can't read
~The Steel Sovereign~ |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:21 PM |
lol I don't mean the scientific term
ex: sleet is an element (Sleet Clan)
things like magma, sleet, things like that, I consider are elemental |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:23 PM |
| Nah man. I can read. I'm not going to take an hour to read long garbage. The theme of TSG and TSD is familiar, at least in my eyes. I skimmed through most of it though. |
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| 03 Mar 2014 03:26 PM |
Hmm..
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