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Re: free money for people who don't work!

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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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28 Feb 2014 01:33 PM
yeah... no
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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28 Feb 2014 01:44 PM
See I would get rid of welfare completely if it were my choice. Instead I'd make a system where 10% of your pay is docked and then saved until you get laid off. That pay also gets a nice 5% interest rate. This way we're not using money we don't have/stealing money from other people.

But it isn't my choice so.
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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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28 Feb 2014 02:04 PM
" Instead I'd make a system where 10% of your pay is docked and then saved until you get laid off."

What if you never get a job though
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drillsargesam is not online. drillsargesam
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28 Feb 2014 02:05 PM
*hands Mcdonald's application*
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Davdanther is not online. Davdanther
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28 Feb 2014 03:12 PM
Benefits?
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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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28 Feb 2014 03:17 PM
how can you expect someone with health issues to get a job
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Davdanther is not online. Davdanther
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28 Feb 2014 03:21 PM
@Above
Agreed.
In the UK people living on benefits are being highly criticized.
- Most on Benefits have reasons
- Others just don't work
- Very, very small amount immigrants
UKIP, BNP, EDL ect.. All blame the immigrants.
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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28 Feb 2014 03:22 PM
@berserk

We can put them to work at the few jobs they know how to do.
For example, we can pay a schizophrenic person to let people put him in a cage and throw nuts at him. It would be wholesome entertainment for the whole family. Or we could cut the middle man out and just force him into the cage, no pay involved!

Don't actually do that; welfare definitely is justified sometimes. I'm against its abuse and I go by Reagan's words, "We should measure welfare's success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added." But there are of course some people who need welfare; the sick, elderly, disabled, etc.
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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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28 Feb 2014 03:24 PM
if someone is perfectly healthy and eligible to get a job they deserve 0 unemployment benefits
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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28 Feb 2014 03:25 PM
Exactly.
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Davdanther is not online. Davdanther
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28 Feb 2014 03:25 PM
@Above
That is the problem.
Wouldn't people make themselves disabled?
Plus, people who have no reason not to work live on the bread line of benefits.
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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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28 Feb 2014 03:45 PM
No, people wouldn't disable themselves. What would happen is people try to broaden what counts as a "disability".
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KingOfBlades888 is not online. KingOfBlades888
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28 Feb 2014 04:23 PM
It's called welfare. People who don't work live off of it. The government is always raising taxes that way they will have enough money to put in the welfare checks every month. people usually get welfare and social security on the first of every month. That's why on the first, the groccery stores are always packed.
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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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28 Feb 2014 04:36 PM
"It's called welfare. People who don't work live off of it. The government is always raising taxes that way they will have enough money to put in the welfare checks every month. people usually get welfare and social security on the first of every month. That's why on the first, the groccery stores are always packed."

Disability claims isn't really Welfare.
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XC6Alt35 is not online. XC6Alt35
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28 Feb 2014 05:09 PM
"if someone is perfectly healthy and eligible to get a job they deserve 0 unemployment benefits"

And if there are no jobs available?
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ChicagoPoliceOfficer is not online. ChicagoPoliceOfficer
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28 Feb 2014 05:27 PM
@XC
Well, if they are trying to look for a job then maybe.
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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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28 Feb 2014 05:40 PM
Someone could say they're looking for a job but actually aren't. There are always people looking for a way to abuse these systems.
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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28 Feb 2014 07:11 PM
but thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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01 Mar 2014 05:59 AM
how can you expect someone with health issues to get a job
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Health issues is classified as SSD usually therefore not welfare.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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01 Mar 2014 06:00 AM
What if you never get a job though
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How can you never get a job.
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XC6Alt35 is not online. XC6Alt35
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01 Mar 2014 06:47 PM
"How can you never get a job."

Serving in prison is one pretty good way
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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01 Mar 2014 07:50 PM
Serving in prison is one pretty good way
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And the crimes you committed were totally not your fault.You must have been mind controlled! If you want societies support you should be a decent human being otherwise I do not care for you or what happens to you.
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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01 Mar 2014 08:18 PM
what if you had to sell drugs to make a living because an honest living one is not possible?

making it very difficult for ex-cons to reassimilate is the one of the biggest catch-22s ive ever seen.
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XC6Alt35 is not online. XC6Alt35
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01 Mar 2014 09:02 PM
"!And the crimes you committed were totally not your fault."

1. Sometimes, they're not, no.

2. AFTER YOU DO YOUR DAMN TIME, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FREE. AS IN, FORGIVEN BY THE LAW. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. You serve your punishment and then you return to a normal citizen, right? No, that's impossible.
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XC6Alt35 is not online. XC6Alt35
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01 Mar 2014 09:05 PM
Unless you want every single person doing the smallest crimes ever to have the equivalent of a life sentence. And if you do, you're not only heartless but completely illogical.
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