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Re: Inflation = Bad

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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
Joined: 23 Nov 2012
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23 Feb 2014 06:28 AM
Enough! I'm tired of this 1 robux = 40 tix crap! JUST LOWER THE INFLATION ALREADY. You never even warned me about it. UGH, WHY DID YOU DO THIS AGAIN?
ROBLOX, DevEx was a REALLY bad idea, because it basically made inflation happen. You act like NBC users have no rights. Please, remove DevEx and stop the inflation! I don't even care if it's giving you OBC braggers who think we don't have any rights at all money. It's causing the whole community to explode in anger. ROBLOX basically acts like the NBC community is the lowest of the low (MODERN FEUDALISM MUCH?) and takes away our money because they're losing so much because of, you guessed it, DEVEX.

My suggestions are

--Remove DevEx
--Then remove the inflation after a while, when you regain your funds
--Eventually, you might even be able to reduce the price floor.
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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
Joined: 23 Nov 2012
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23 Feb 2014 06:29 AM
Oh yeah, DataStore, before you post anything here (Which I know you will) I'd prefer some constructiveness. And anyone else saying I'm a raging n00b, I actually had BC last year if that appeases your bullying appetite.
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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
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23 Feb 2014 06:32 AM
I also don't believe mods want us to have opinions at all!
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BinomialIsCool is not online. BinomialIsCool
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23 Feb 2014 06:37 AM
Inflation is good if controlled. You clearly know nothing of economics.
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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
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23 Feb 2014 06:42 AM
With the state it's at now, no.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 06:43 AM
"--Remove DevEx"
This is not going to happen.

"--Then remove the inflation after a while, when you regain your funds"
It would help if you suggested a solution to the inflation that doesn't involve removing features from ROBLOX.

"--Eventually, you might even be able to reduce the price floor."
I doubt they would.
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BinomialIsCool is not online. BinomialIsCool
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23 Feb 2014 06:46 AM
It's controversal, but I think a way to sort it out would be either by removing tickets completely, instead giving NBC 1 robuck a day, or to increase the amount they get to be exactly 1 robuck a day (say one day it is 10, the next day 41, next day 32 or whatever). But to stop inflation? No.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:00 AM
@binomia
I've heard rumours that John said something about removing tickets altogether, but that's a rumor, to take it with a grain of salt.
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BinomialIsCool is not online. BinomialIsCool
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23 Feb 2014 07:01 AM
@deltav, wow, that's interesting actually. You have a source for that?
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:02 AM
@bino
Sadly, no. Like I said, rumours are rumours. I believe it was on his twitter or something, so you'd have to take a look there.
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BinomialIsCool is not online. BinomialIsCool
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23 Feb 2014 07:02 AM
Ah, that's fair enough.
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Zyliox is not online. Zyliox
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23 Feb 2014 07:24 AM
Hm, maybe they could lower the money they give out from DevEx but not remove it entirely.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:35 AM
What if they increased the money BC gave?
Haven't really thought about it, but hey.
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tery215 is not online. tery215
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23 Feb 2014 07:49 AM
I agree, but inflation is a representation of how much ROBLOX makes other bad decisions.
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tery215 is not online. tery215
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23 Feb 2014 07:50 AM
also DevEx should die
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:50 AM
@tery
How come?
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tery215 is not online. tery215
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23 Feb 2014 07:54 AM
It's obviously the cause of inflation (crazy OBC'ers sucking up all of the TIX, turning it into ROBUX) and almost nobody benefits from it.

- No BC'ers can benefit from it.

- No NBC'ers can benefit from it.

- No TBC'ers can benefit from it.

- Only the best of the OBC'ers can benefit from it.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:56 AM
"- Only the best of the OBC'ers can benefit from it."
So how is it the cause of the inflation? You make it sound like a minority of a minority. Not to mention that DevEx is also meant to promote ROBLOX as an Indie-Game platform.
The inflation has multiple causes. DevEx might be one of them, but DevEx also has clear and major benefits for ROBLOX.
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tery215 is not online. tery215
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23 Feb 2014 07:57 AM
tell me, then

what the "clear and major" benefits are
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 07:58 AM
@tery
For game developers, a source of real income for their work.
For ROBLOX, a major selling point.
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Duckywow is not online. Duckywow
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23 Feb 2014 08:03 AM
should we report this guy for harrasment?
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tery215 is not online. tery215
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23 Feb 2014 08:04 AM
very zyliox points are made

- Community is experiencing being crushed/exploding
- Economy is falling down

ROBLOX makes enough money already, even w/o price floor or DevEx.

- Tix value is dead already and is rotting to its bones.

Pretty soon, game developers will have a very hard time making any money off of DevEx when TC dies.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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23 Feb 2014 08:08 AM
"- Community is experiencing being crushed/exploding
- Economy is falling down"
I don't understand the first point. The second point is valid.

"ROBLOX makes enough money already, even w/o price floor or DevEx."
There is no such thing as enough profit.

"Pretty soon, game developers will have a very hard time making any money off of DevEx when TC dies."
So why not think of solutions that do not remove important bits of ROBLOX?
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DataStore is not online. DataStore
Joined: 07 Feb 2012
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23 Feb 2014 08:11 AM
This is going to be a polite note, to you (@OP), to stop attempting to single me out and force me to respond in the way you want me to - favourably. I will reply, when I want, with what I want - so stop with this whole finger pointing towards me, it's getting incredibly tiresome. If you want to bump your post, then say "Bump".

Inflation is actually a good thing, but not always - which is what ROBLOX is seeing. In the real world countries will generally try to keep an inflation rate of between 1-2%. It's not as simple as simply pressing the delete key, or resetting the rates for everything - the ratio will go back to what it was pre-reset, with people profiting in a massive way.

Whilst DevEx has the potential to be the one which screwed TC over, there are also a host of other factors which have instigated this rapid, and unprecedented, rise in inflation within the ROBLOX economy. It wasn't a singular action. ROBLOX shifting advert bids to both Tix and Robux is also to blame, as those trades (R$ -> Tix) took up a substantial amount of the trades going on, in my opinion at the very least. Removing DevEx isn't going to solve the problem, nor is lowering the amount they can cash out at any one time.

Also, to be fair, NBC is the lowest of the low. They don't contribute to ROBLOX's profits in any shape or form, other than when they buy BC. ROBLOX creates the divide in order to incentivize more people to buy their premium service. It's nothing to do with them failing - they're a business for pete sake, their main aim is to maximise profits.

Overall the issue here is that tickets don't have a use anymore. When have you seen a hat published, for tickets, which looks brilliant? What features on this website are tickets only now? None of them. That's what needs to be changed in order to help the economy, not removing random features which have the potential to be blamed, and "hope everything goes back to the way it was".

Also, just a point that needs to be made... ROBLOX increased the amount that DevEx members can cash out at one point ($2,000), even if you decrease it users can still submit multiple withdrawal request and as Delta pointed out it does benefit ROBLOX. Along with promoting ROBLOX as an indie platform (they're also thinking of allowing you to save your game as an EXE, or something like that), it also incentivizes older players to come to ROBLOX - it increases their user base, and also increases their profits (more players, more BC, etc).
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Javeman2000 is not online. Javeman2000
Joined: 03 Sep 2008
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23 Feb 2014 08:11 AM
support.

And yeah, i bet game devs need 2000$ for designing a 3d world with the simplest child-friendly programming language and interface, that kids play. And I'm sure they're dealing with hard economical times, considering they have a computer good enough to make an incredibly famous game, and enough money to afford OBC as is is. -sarcasm-
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