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Re: Value Logic.

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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:39 PM
BsF is 100k; it goes for CCC / CCo really often.
Messor is 140k; it goes for CCCo really often.
Catseye, Wwa, Baharma, Etc, which all offer for Messor, are 140k each.
GSTF, which seems to go for Messor + Vesp, would be 200k.
RSTF, which goes for 2x GSTF, is 400k.
MBSTF, which goes for GSTF + 30k, is 230k.
xMaximusx, which usually goes for around GSTF value, is 200k.

The other items (Rares, demands, etc) can all be valued based off that.
But then we'd actually have a system to value stuff off of, instead of saying "X item is much more valuable than Y item even though I have no reason why!"

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Legostarwars98745 is not online. Legostarwars98745
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21 Feb 2014 03:39 PM
lol ive been sent pstf for 2 gstfs
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SparkIeFarts is not online. SparkIeFarts
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21 Feb 2014 03:40 PM
I actually would like to support this. But once Classic combos hype dies, this becomes irrelevent.
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DemonRiver is not online. DemonRiver
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21 Feb 2014 03:40 PM
the solution:

class ccco parts as trading exceptions which get OP'd for a lot
last year we had the same demand hype until ~April
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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21 Feb 2014 03:40 PM
Skeleton Lord = 125k. Keep in mind, some rares never get traded because of how rare they are.
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Makemydayplease is not online. Makemydayplease
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21 Feb 2014 03:41 PM
THAT is acctualy lgoic use
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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:44 PM
@Lego
Oh ye maybe idk
I don't really care about that one as much, just that everything should be affected by it

@Sparkle
Its not just CCCo items.
If you have lots of smalls, like 200k worth, then you'll get so-called 300k items for them.
If you have JJs and stuff, you'll get oped for them.
Its doubtful to expect that to stop, since people will always need money for one reason or another, so they'll always be trying to do that.

@Demon
As I said up there ^^^
It isn't just ccco items that have it
JJ does, smalls do, anything that you can sell for value does.
So you'd have to put all of those into an exception.. Just seems easier to revalue stuff.

And @ Luigi Idk about that one

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DemonRiver is not online. DemonRiver
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21 Feb 2014 03:45 PM
or you can separate items based on demand
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luigi9313 is not online. luigi9313
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21 Feb 2014 03:45 PM
For instance, although many rares have no demand whatsoever, their value isn't affected by hype. You only hear about items like messor and ac dropping, you don't hear about 4/1 items and <70 sold dropping from hype.
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SoupTheory is not online. SoupTheory
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21 Feb 2014 03:45 PM
messor adds for ccco are you dumb.
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SparkIeFarts is not online. SparkIeFarts
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21 Feb 2014 03:46 PM
Okay yea, then in that case I support this. Too many people are arguing about values now.
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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:52 PM
@Soup
So its 139k
Whatever I rounded

@Demon
Did u read it tho?
Its nothing demand related
Its the fact that messor goes for ccco, so its 140k
BsF goes for 100k, so it doesn't make sense that it would be 180k
Catseye goes for Messor, messor goes for CCCo, so Catseye is 140k
Blah blah blah

Demand isn't really related that much

@Luigi
The good ones don't
The bad ones do (Catseye, Baharma, Chronold, etc)
They've all been going for major ups, but at this point, they aren't really "major ups"

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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:54 PM
Boing

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DemonRiver is not online. DemonRiver
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21 Feb 2014 03:55 PM
against this
what does sc = ?
it went for chryso (hawt red dragon) + epsilon

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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:56 PM
Uh
Chryso goes for rstf, so whatever rstf is + whatever epsil is when you compare it to trades that it goes for
But its more what it goes for often, one trade doesn't matter too much

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Kaluosi is not online. Kaluosi
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21 Feb 2014 03:58 PM
the problem with making ccco parts values higher is that they still get traded for their set values.
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spawn0again is not online. spawn0again
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21 Feb 2014 03:58 PM
id support this.
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L2000 is not online. L2000
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21 Feb 2014 03:59 PM
@Kal
Exactly
That's why everything else has to lower, not ccco items raise

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