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Re: Death Penalty

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diamondmark is not online. diamondmark
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16 Feb 2014 10:01 AM
Discuss :)
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Dulexo is not online. Dulexo
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16 Feb 2014 10:04 AM
lol u americans get set to death after u rob a gas station
lol
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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16 Feb 2014 10:46 AM
its more expensive than life in prison
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re567 is not online. re567
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16 Feb 2014 10:47 AM
BRING IT BACK IN THE UK! IT SHOULD BE USED FOR INHUMANE CRIMES!
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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16 Feb 2014 10:48 AM
why should it be used for "inhumane" crimes
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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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16 Feb 2014 10:50 AM
I think it is a great idea.

It depopulates people from prison so there is more room in the prisons.
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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16 Feb 2014 10:52 AM
it also burns a massive hole in the pocket of the government (so much for "fiscal conservatism") just for an act of vengeance

maybe if our government wasnt so eager to incarcenrate people there wouldnt be a lot of overpopulated prisons
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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16 Feb 2014 10:57 AM
the idea of criminals "getting what they deserve" is appealing to a lot of people, but IRL it just doesnt work that easily, gotta make sure its the right guy and give a fair trial instead of just dragging the guy to a wall and shooting
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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16 Feb 2014 11:06 AM
I'm against it and i'm happy to live in a country without death penalty.
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DuckD0nald is online. DuckD0nald
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16 Feb 2014 11:08 AM
Here is my view.

For:
- Less criminals
- Saves money
- Jails are cushy and they have too many rights
- Discourages people from crime
Against:
- More instant than time in jail
- Time in jail without freedoms would be potentially worse
- Two wrongs don't make a right
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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16 Feb 2014 11:15 AM
The average person on death row spends around 15 years in prison before execution, so you arent really thinning out jail populations by using the death penalty.

Ugrading the sentence to the death penalty also has an average elevated cost of $3M-$1.9M, so it isnt saving money either.
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diamondmark is not online. diamondmark
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16 Feb 2014 11:50 AM
Against :(

- Lethal injection can actually be really painful according to post morten findings and is also consistent with wakefulness. It also requires medical personel to be directly involved in killing, which is a fundamental contravention of medical ethics.

- Per 10,000 people, the murder rate was .99% higher in states where the death penalty was allowed. So it does not deter. Considering there is a similar pattern with the number of police officers murdered, this could partially be because people are angered by the penalty being there in the first place. There is no evidence otherwise to show that deterrence works.

- In states such as New Jersey, $253,000,000 were spent but there were no executions.

- The anticipatory suffering is greater than the victim of murder. This is relevant to some cases, but I get that it will probably be more painless.

- And people who have at best a marginal capacity for moral agency because of their mental state? The best way is to just kill them?

-The death penalty legitamizes an irreversible act of violence by the state, and in many countries it will inevitably claim innocent victims. The death penalty on a whole could be viewed as revenge, but justice seems a bit of a far reach.

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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 Feb 2014 11:52 AM
If they will be in prison for life, it is a better alternative than supporting them for 70 more years.
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diamondmark is not online. diamondmark
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16 Feb 2014 11:52 AM
"Ugrading the sentence to the death penalty also has an average elevated cost of $3M-$1.9M, so it isnt saving money either".
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ChicagoPoliceOfficer is not online. ChicagoPoliceOfficer
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16 Feb 2014 11:56 AM
As people can sometimes get wrongly convicted, no, I don't support it.
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FedleyAlt2 is not online. FedleyAlt2
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16 Feb 2014 12:49 PM
its against human rights but at the same time prisons don't have to give up as much space or money
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Niiqiarqusu is not online. Niiqiarqusu
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16 Feb 2014 12:50 PM
justice must be served
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dayzdagah is not online. dayzdagah
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16 Feb 2014 01:57 PM
It has it's up's and down's but I think that it's not right!
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Marxii is not online. Marxii
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16 Feb 2014 02:38 PM
It's better then serving all your life in prison.
I mean, you are not going anywhere or doing anything in a life sentence.
Should be used for sentences longer than 80 years. (Some sentences can be over 100,000 years)
So, there is no point in a life sentence at all. Prisons are always overcrowded.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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16 Feb 2014 04:59 PM
"It's better then serving all your life in prison.
I mean, you are not going anywhere or doing anything in a life sentence.
Should be used for sentences longer than 80 years. (Some sentences can be over 100,000 years)
So, there is no point in a life sentence at all. Prisons are always overcrowded."

Stopping jailing peoples for lifetime would be a solution for this. "Lifetime" means in my country 16 years.
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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16 Feb 2014 05:01 PM
I think we as a are too eager to throw people in the box.

Our prison systems need reform. Just another fact to consider: 80% of convicted junveniles reoffend.
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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16 Feb 2014 05:55 PM
Alright. support it. But don't think somebody innocent is free from getting in death row.
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lashers is not online. lashers
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16 Feb 2014 05:59 PM
"its against human rights"

Since when did you start caring about human rights? Or do you just make 'exceptions'?
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 Feb 2014 06:09 PM
@2013 If 16 years is a life-time where you live, I'd hate to live in your country.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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16 Feb 2014 06:36 PM
"@2013 If 16 years is a life-time where you live, I'd hate to live in your country."

16 years isn't lifetime. If they jail someone and they say it's lifetime, it's 16 years. The name is just called lifetime.
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