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| 09 Feb 2014 06:44 PM |
Roblox, you got your money. It worked! You're rich now. Now its time you lower the price floor. If you agree that the price floor should be lowered, just say: "Signed." If you have any complaints, refer to everything below.
Before you make any money-wise excuses: 1. They had plenty of money before price floor. 2. They have 3 memberships, and NBC are treated low enough as it is. 3. Price floor was instant. They can lower it little by little until they get their desired profit, but otherwise they're just being flat out greedy. 4. If they can throw thousands of dollars on OBC through DevEx, then 1. That tells me they have plenty of money right now, as well. 2. It tells me they shouldn't have made DevEx or raised it to 2000$ if they needed to make price floor to make up for the money. 3. If they need to lower DevEx to lower price floor, then so be it. That's what started this mess in the first place. I'm sick of money being used as an excuse. It is a completely irrational excuse.
Perhaps they used a different, sophisticated diabolical plan: 1. Create price floor, practically forcing NBC to get BC if they want any satisfaction, giving roblox more money. 2. Raise DevEx to 2000$. 3. Encouraging more people to buy OBC to get real money, thus giving roblox more money also. 4. NBC gets treated worse, and is even lower than they already were, and an older audience comes to roblox, and they just corrupt the community by, well, being teenagers who think too highly of themselves.
Either way, roblox needs to do something about price floor. Lowering it by a half isn't going to cause a nuclear bomb to go off. It doesn't even need to be half. It just needs to be lowered by anything. There are OBC'ers who have to set aside their robux just to get some clothing. It completely ruins group uniforms.
I don't know if roblox knew this, but, according to simple logic, the more something costs, the less purchases it gets. Nobody cares that they get more money. They know its unfair, they want to sell for less, and that they get less sells, so why are you stopping them, roblox? Why? POR QUOI?! Most people put about 10 minutes into their quality clothing. What do they want? A cookie? Clothing was 1/4 of roblox ever since it was made. It was to express your character, since it was made around 8 years ago.
Before you say anything negative, 1. Were allowed to stand up for this feature and put our foot down. 2. If you're BC then I wont even bother reasoning with you. 3. Don't say WNTS. Price floor is not a "massive update". Its a massive mistake if anything. 4. Don't try to write up a list attempting to prove each of my points wrong, because for one thing, it makes you look like a fool.
Just say "Signed" if you support. K thx bai! |
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| 09 Feb 2014 06:53 PM |
| No support, although the price floor is annoying. According to other people it has a good reason to be in existence. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 06:53 PM |
| God, before you start flaming me because I'm BC. Just get over with it. BC is only $5.95. Is that expensive? Why do you guys rant about this stupid update when it was made 5 MONTHS AGO? Srsly, Get over with it. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 06:54 PM |
there are thousands of ppl who cant afford that and theres another thread about this.. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 07:08 PM |
@princezz, what good is there in price floor? there's so many more cons than pros.
@soccer, I'd rather not spend my money no matter how little, on something of absolutely no value. We rant about it because its the worst thing they have ever done in years, and this is the first thing I ever ranted about in 6 years. They've gone too far for money on this one. The only way they'll do anything about it is if we keep ranting about it, and they'll have to do something eventually. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 07:37 PM |
how does Malvus get over 9000 supporters? I talked more about why price floor needs to be terminated on this thread. C: |
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| 09 Feb 2014 07:41 PM |
@Jave, "We rant about it because its the worst thing they have ever done in years," That's an extremely subjective viewpoint. Whilst it may be the "worst update in years" for you, there is likely a worse one for someone else, or someone who would disagree (waves).
"The only way they'll do anything about it is if we keep ranting about it, and they'll have to do something eventually." Newsflash - They don't have to do anything about it, no matter how many people throw a tantrum on the floor/throw their rattle out their pram. It's their website, their rules.
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1) A business' main objective in the long run is to make as much profit as possible so they can then invest that extra money on improving services/their overall product (in ROBLOX's case, faster web hosting, more developers moderators, etc). It's not like it goes into a giant pot that Shedletsky or Builderman take home, otherwise I could understand your statement of them being greedy. 2) Again, okay? Is there a point you're trying to make, because I've missed it. 3) Greedy for virtual currency.... definitely. 4) See point one. Seriously.
"I don't know if roblox knew this, but, according to simple logic, the more something costs, the less purchases it gets."
I don't know if you know this, but simple logic dictates that an item that costs more increases profit for the creator over a much shorter time period, and prevents major undercutting on prices. As it stood, clothing creators were getting next to nothing as why buy a shirt that's 50 Tix (and looks amazing), when you can buy one that's similar but is only a couple of tickets. By forcing all of the prices up, it allows for everyone to make a fair income off of their clothing creations, and also stops people throwing their money around.
By increasing prices it has also made stealing clothing less profitable, in a way, since why buy someone elses when you can buy the original for 100 Tix?
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You're basing your whole argument around OBC and memberships, and how you're being treated badly. Newsflash, again, ROBLOX is a LEARNING game. Technically speaking, they could quite as easily market this game without clothing available to NBC, or any members for that matter. Technically speaking, again, ROBLOX doesn't even need to accommodate you on this site, but they do.
"Don't try to write up a list attempting to prove each of my points wrong, because for one thing, it makes you look like a fool."
But it's fine for you to throw a list at me? |
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| 09 Feb 2014 07:54 PM |
I don't have time for a mini mod wannabe, sorry, so either sign the petition or leave. I knew I'd get this kind of irrational back talk from a BC'er with a gold dominus and joined in 2012, who thinks too highly of himself. Sorry! :) |
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| 09 Feb 2014 08:02 PM |
"don't have time for a mini mod wannabe" I'm neither a mini mod nor a wannabe.
"irrational back talk from a BC'er" Actually, my arguments were logical unlike your large assumptions based on your subjective views.
"joined in 2012" 2008. Leolion113.
"thinks too highly of himself" Not quite. Don't know where you picked that up from.
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| 09 Feb 2014 08:33 PM |
@Jave, "We rant about it because its the worst thing they have ever done in years," That's an extremely subjective viewpoint. Whilst it may be the "worst update in years" for you, there is likely a worse one for someone else, or someone who would disagree (waves).
"The only way they'll do anything about it is if we keep ranting about it, and they'll have to do something eventually." Newsflash - They don't have to do anything about it, no matter how many people throw a tantrum on the floor/throw their rattle out their pram. It's their website, their rules.
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>1) A business' main objective in the long run is to make as much profit as possible so they can then invest that extra money on >improving services/their overall product (in ROBLOX's case, faster web hosting, more developers moderators, etc). It's not like it goes >into a giant pot that Shedletsky or Builderman take home, otherwise I could understand your statement of them being greedy. I haven't seen any improvements to any "product" in the past months. The only thing they ever improve is gameplay, and make OBC more profitable by making NBC worth less than dust. >2) Again, okay? Is there a point you're trying to make, because I've missed it. Yeah, maybe because you could care less about NBC, considering your a BC'er with a gold dominus, is a mini mod wannabe, and thinks too highly of himself. >3) Greedy for virtual currency.... definitely. Yeah, blame it on my greed, sure, cause your out of legitimate reasons to use against me. >4) See point one. Seriously. See my other points.
"I don't know if roblox knew this, but, according to simple logic, the more something costs, the less purchases it gets."
>I don't know if you know this, but simple logic dictates that an item that costs more increases profit for the creator over a much shorter >time period, and prevents major undercutting on prices. I don't know if you knew this, but this is false, and maybe you should ask some other BC'ers about their sales since price floor rather than just assuming. As it stood, clothing creators were getting next to nothing as why buy a shirt >that's 50 Tix (and looks amazing), when you can buy one that's similar but is only a couple of tickets.
>By forcing all of the prices up, it >allows for everyone to make a fair income off of their clothing creations, and also stops people throwing their money around. Fair income? They spent 10 minutes on a virtual clothing, what do they want? A cookie? It certainly isn't fair to the community to spend a months worth of money on a virtual clothing. Throwing their money around? You could buy 50 clothing with 100 tix, I don't see the slightest problem with that and where youre getting this. Clothing is not even worth buying anymore, so obviously it has an effect - a bad one.
>By increasing prices it has also made stealing clothing less profitable, in a way, since why buy someone elses when you can buy the original for 100 Tix? yeah, emphasis on "in a way". Why bother care which one is original or not when every clothing is the same price, 100 tix? It's just too high.
>You're basing your whole argument around OBC and memberships, and how you're being treated badly. Newsflash, again, ROBLOX >is a LEARNING game. Technically speaking, they could quite as easily market this game without clothing available to NBC, or any >members for that matter. Technically speaking, again, ROBLOX doesn't even need to accommodate you on this site, but they do. Is there a problem with basing it off that? We are treated badly, for them to out of the clear blue make us wait a month to get shirt and pants, and ruin group uniforms. Roblox is not just a learning game. Not too long ago, NBC were respected and things were incredibly fair for everyone.
>But it's fine for you to throw a list at me? Hey, you came into my thread, and this is suppose to be a simple petition, not something to be picky about every single point I make. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 08:43 PM |
whoops, your list was so obnoxiously long I forgot the top. , "We rant about it because its the worst thing they have ever done in years," >That's an extremely subjective viewpoint. Whilst it may be the "worst update in years" for you, there is likely a worse one for someone >else, or someone who would disagree (waves). Oh really? Tell that to the almost 10000 supporters in Malvus's price floor removal petition, and Vendettathegreat, ahem, the best clothing designer on roblox since 2008, who hates price floor.
"The only way they'll do anything about it is if we keep ranting about it, and they'll have to do something eventually." >Newsflash - They don't have to do anything about it, no matter how many people throw a tantrum on the floor/throw their rattle out >their pram. It's their website, their rules. News flash - It doesn't hurt to put your foot down at times. Maybe it actually will change something. You should stop assuming it wont. People are gonna stop playing or paying if roblox keeps coming out with crap updates.
Now get off my thread. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 08:48 PM |
>I'm neither a mini mod nor a wannabe. Really? Your long obnoxious list against my points tells me otherwise.
>Actually, my arguments were logical unlike your large assumptions based on your subjective views. Lol no.
>2008. Leolion113. Then stop acting like a 2012'er.
>Not quite. Don't know where you picked that up from. I got it from your obnoxious post. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:28 PM |
Block Unintelligent Mortals Please
Just sign your name here, here and here. how does Malvus's thread get 9000 supports, and all he says is 1 line?! >:o |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:29 PM |
1. They had plenty of money before price floor. 2. They have 3 memberships, and NBC are treated low enough as it is. 3. Price floor was instant. They can lower it little by little until they get their desired profit, but otherwise they're just being flat out greedy. 4. If they can throw thousands of dollars on OBC through DevEx, then 1. That tells me they have plenty of money right now, as well. 2. It tells me they shouldn't have made DevEx or raised it to 2000$ if they needed to make price floor to make up for the money. 3. If they need to lower DevEx to lower price floor, then so be it. That's what started this mess in the first place. I'm sick of money being used as an excuse. It is a completely irrational excuse"
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The world is centered on money. It's the basis of the economy.
They need to pay their workers. If they don't have the money for this, their workers quit, resulting in less production. As a result, bugs and glitches take longer to be fixed, causing people to stop paying for membership. This causes more shortage of money. Then comes in taxes and repairs. If they can't pay taxes, the company is shut down. And besides, if they did have money for tax payment, they would still have a run down place to work in, with things needing to be repaired, yet there is not enough money to pay for the repairs.
You see? ROBLOX is a system. Deal with the fact that they need money, or you're going to fail in the future. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:31 PM |
| @Jave learn some respect to the community or leave |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:33 PM |
See, this is what I don't get about people like you. You complain my long reply was 'obnoxiously long' - imagine how I feel having to go through your illogical, suggestive driven, drivel. You're the one here acting like he's entitled to everything on this earth, not me.
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1) "I haven't seen any improvements to any "product" in the past months."
They're always changing/updating the visual aesthetic of the game. They're also improving on previous errors/issues, and also have them throwing out new features giving the developer ultimate power. Examples of which would be universes (Games), and the new data persistence API they're bringing out (of which will remove the loss of data aspect of the original API).
2) "Yeah, maybe because you could care less about NBC, considering your a BC'er"
No, I genuininly don't get what the point you're attempting to make is. Whilst yes I may be BC, I will only be BC for the next eight days.
3) "Yeah, blame it on my greed, sure, cause your out of legitimate reasons to use against me."
Nope, wasn't what I said at all. Don't put words in my mouth. Did I mention your name? No. Did I mention you at all, either insinuated or not? No.
4) "I don't know if you knew this, but this is false, and maybe you should ask some other BC'ers about their sales since price floor rather than just assuming."
No, it really isn't. If we take ROBLOX's figures at face value asset creators are earning a lot more, putting them in competition with game developers. Which is what ROBLOX wanted.
5) "They spent 10 minutes on a virtual clothing, what do they want?"
Yes, if you're looking at some crappy pinstripe. It takes a lot longer, and I'm sure Vende would agree. Time is money. The sooner you learn that, the better.
6) "It certainly isn't fair to the community to spend a months worth of money on a virtual clothing."
Nobody is forcing you to spend any money, at all.
7) "Tell that to the almost 10000 supporters in Malvus's price floor removal petition"
When you add up all the figures, this supposed ten thousand could be considered a minority when compared to the amount of registered accounts, and even the current concurrent user count (1/10).
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:33 PM |
Isn't it ironic how both of you are BCers?
How about you learn some respect for NBC'ers. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:35 PM |
"Really? Your long obnoxious list against my points tells me otherwise."
Apparently creating a counter arguement is being a minimod. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:36 PM |
"The world is centered on money. It's the basis of the economy.
They need to pay their workers. If they don't have the money for this, their workers quit, resulting in less production. As a result, bugs and glitches take longer to be fixed, causing people to stop paying for membership. This causes more shortage of money. Then comes in taxes and repairs. If they can't pay taxes, the company is shut down. And besides, if they did have money for tax payment, they would still have a run down place to work in, with things needing to be repaired, yet there is not enough money to pay for the repairs.
You see? ROBLOX is a system. Deal with the fact that they need money, or you're going to fail in the future" Lolno, I don't know where you came up with this ecosystem. Read my thread, I specifically mentions money wise excuses. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:37 PM |
"Isn't it ironic how both of you are BCers?
How about you learn some respect for NBC'ers."
Who's saying we don't respect NBCers? Just because we don't support everything you state means we don't respect you? |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:39 PM |
| Sorry, didn't know you had a set of rules for this thread, kid. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:40 PM |
| Data store, you just don't get anything do you..you already lost the argument, quit trying to win it back. And judging by your vocabulary and trying to act all mature, I can see you are too old for roblox. Get a life. |
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| 09 Feb 2014 09:43 PM |
| Roblox is a game for all ages. ;) |
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