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| 31 Jan 2014 07:33 PM |
If a clan wants to declare war on another clan, but the other clan declines the war, does that mean it is a sign of weakness?
Because in reality, you can't just simply "decline" a war. The push to starting the war is made by the clan who wants war thus it would be under their terms whether or not war happens.
If the other clan declines the war, it won't really stop the warring clan from raiding and attacking.
Once the other clan starts fighting back at defends, a war has technically already started even if no official terms were given.
What do you guys think?
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Queenful
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:35 PM |
I think that this is a game so you should calm yourself.
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:36 PM |
| You are taking this game way too seriously... |
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:36 PM |
I think declining wars is a way to prevent the recognition of the clan taking the offensive position.
Though it doesn't really stop them from fighting.
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b3njam1n
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:36 PM |
Clans that decline war should be added to everyone's noobs list.
You shouldn't even have to ask for war, what the hell kinda era do we play in what with asking permission first, and autowins, auto anything |
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NODTIME
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:36 PM |
I think we should just create a group,send ally requests to it,and the create universal war rules. I can see some problems though. |
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:36 PM |
shush shush.
It is a big deal that needs to be dealt with ok.
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Lissitski
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:37 PM |
Back in the old days, when a clan of 1k members declared war on a superclan, they didn't care because naturally, the superclan was bigger.
This also led to many small clans putting big groups on their defeated lists, despite being illegitimate wars.
But, if a smaller clan raided the big clan on a daily basis, it triggered an official war.
In other words, if a clan declares war on you, so be it. Don't decline it, just ignore it.
If they prove to be active enough to raid you daily, accept it.
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:37 PM |
no no no , he's correct.
At the same time, it's admitting that the faction who wants war is better. but lel, it could mean they don't want war.
The "Issue" isn't real
>> all chickens can rekt too
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:38 PM |
Honestly, you shouldn't decline a war unless you're inactive/going through reforms. Otherwise I'm gonna pull an Ult & Decline ur decline.
Siomete & Surrender. Submit & Surrender. |
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Auxeus
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:38 PM |
| exactly...you dont simply decline a war, you can keep raiding the clan even if they "declined it" and then they group ban you and then you claim a win and then C&G gets angry over an autowin -______________- |
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:39 PM |
@Lord
True.
If your group doesn't have a functioning fort to work with and is busy cleaning up stuff, then yes, a decline would be a legitimate excuse since there is no land to have war on.
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:40 PM |
One does not simply decline a war.
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:42 PM |
@NOD
A lot of clans will probably not accept it since many want to make their own rules and terms.
Plus, there's a lot of factors to consider especially when it comes to how the war is played.
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kaelan01
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:46 PM |
i totally agree
i instantly despise any clan that just bans people for not being in an official war with them
that's just terrible |
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MrSwallow
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:48 PM |
@Mr
Those who are patient will get a reward well deserved. c:
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Syncretic
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:48 PM |
the thing is, this isn't 'reality'
it's roblox. and if a group has a legitimate reason to either decline a war or put a war off it's fine.
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BEEZit
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:50 PM |
| anyone who declines wars shouldn't be considered a war clan unless theres actual good reasoning to declining |
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MrSwallow
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:51 PM |
The question is though: what are these legitimate reasons?
I know one would be not having an existing fort/base to raid at.
I heard another could be size, though there have been many instances where the size of the clan does not matter.
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b3njam1n
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:55 PM |
can we all agree to these de facto 'rules of clanning'?
1. No autowins, at all. If admin abuse happened, than it's an Invalid raid. And sucessfully defending a base isn't a win either
2. No Declining wars. You can ignore random battles like Lissitski said, but if a clan is doing raids a lot, it would be best to try to defend, why not? And if you're fort's not done yet, than don't put it up, quite simple. If you don't want war as a clan..at all, than maybe you should stop calling your group a clan.
3. If a clan admin abuses, or does any other stupid stuff, than they DON'T go on your defeated lists, just put them on a 'noob list', a list of clans that are recognized as nooby currently |
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| 31 Jan 2014 07:56 PM |
good reasoning imo;
GG declares war on frost clan. the entire c&g didn't take the declaration of war srsly, jake is too busy lol'ing irl at it. i actually found out it was serious. i do a raid on gg. we take the fort within like 40 minutes. ogm good job sparrow u won a raid on them b4 i realize this was srs. ok we're declining your war because gg wouldn't honestly stand the slightest chance vs us, however jakey agrees that if gg actually takes a server at fort wolf, he'd accept the war. [this was a serious thing btw]
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b3njam1n
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| 31 Jan 2014 08:01 PM |
Um firstly Sparrow, who gives a crap what this moronic C&G Forum thinks. C&G shouldn't be running your clan.
Secondly, people shouldn't 'decline wars' because there's no such thing as 'declining wars'. If you end up banning an entire clan from your fort because they keep raiding, that's not a byproduct of you declining war, it's just admin abuse. |
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