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Re: JC have admitted defeat.

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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30 Jan 2014 02:28 PM
Forum can be found here for anyone that missed it: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=124451384

Good game to both sides.
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:29 PM
p2w fort
i don't consider this a defeat
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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30 Jan 2014 02:29 PM
Because Fang totally doesn't have VIPs<
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TheLittleGoomba is not online. TheLittleGoomba
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30 Jan 2014 02:29 PM
JC autowin
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:30 PM
"Because Fang totally doesn't have VIPs<"
A base with VIPs =/= A p2w base.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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30 Jan 2014 02:30 PM
Fang can be considered a p2w.
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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30 Jan 2014 02:30 PM
@Nhelp

"p2w fort"
>fort fang

LOL

By the way who cares what you consider when your higher ranks and clan consider it a defeat.
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XxNightDreamerxX is not online. XxNightDreamerxX
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30 Jan 2014 02:30 PM
jc is bad!1!111
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:31 PM
"Fang can be considered a p2w."

How is that?

@draco | nobody cares about your opinion, degenerate
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Brickstoner is not online. Brickstoner
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30 Jan 2014 02:32 PM
lol most clans progress over time jc does the opposite like when u think they reached a bottom they drill straight to it
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Brickstoner is not online. Brickstoner
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30 Jan 2014 02:33 PM
through* derp
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Inversus is not online. Inversus
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30 Jan 2014 02:33 PM
""Fang can be considered a p2w."

How is that?"

well since the shops don't work
the only way to get better weapons is to buy vip

1 - JC automatically get M16s which are OP compared to raider guns
2 - jc have vip
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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30 Jan 2014 02:33 PM
Nhelp
If no one cares about my opinion then then how come you post

"I don't consider it a post, like people should care more than would of me, yet you post your opinion....

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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30 Jan 2014 02:34 PM
Well I practically had to scream and yell to get the defeat forum.

Thanks Lord.

@Nhelp

People can consider it a p2w now that the Raider's gun(TMP) is worse than JC's(m16).
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:35 PM
"well since the shops don't work
the only way to get better weapons is to buy vip

1 - JC automatically get M16s which are OP compared to raider guns
2 - jc have vip"

Do you even see what bs you're spewing?

1. the shops work
2. JC guns = Raiders guns
The raider weapons are the equvalent of JC's weapons, but in another shape, fire rate, ammo, etc.
3. JC don't have VIP unless they buy it
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:36 PM
"People can consider it a p2w now that the Raider's gun(TMP) is worse than JC's(m16)."

I'd like to make myself clear. P2W = Pay to Win.

TMP is the equivalent of JC's M16, but with 5 less bullets. I have the guns myself.
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Inversus is not online. Inversus
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30 Jan 2014 02:37 PM
1. the shops don't work, at least not for raiders
2. haha, don't make me laugh "another shape, fire rate, ammo, etc."
-fire rate and ammo are better for jc
-damage is far better for jc
3. and obviously more jc buy it than bwe, because they always defend here
funny how you accuse bwe of being p2w and then say that VIPs are okay in a fort
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legomada is not online. legomada
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
The M16s being "OP" is a matter of opinion, although the stats are a little messed up in the current version. Once that's fixed, it'll be back to the way it used to be - raiders get slightly less damage for better accuracy, and vice versa. Not exactly OP, you just see it that way because they're different.
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
@Nhelp
IF a fort has VIP, it can be considered "pay to win" Because one side can buy and one side cant, the fact you can buy make it possible to win through buying.

By the way, get your facts right before you post, the shop didn't work for raiders when we raided.


You are making yourself look bad, oh wait xd
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Brickstoner is not online. Brickstoner
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
um other clans beat BWE im pretty sure not all of them bought the VIP

more excuses pls
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Carenium is online. Carenium
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
JC is P2W, More so than this clan. I'm pretty sure the 1k VIPs are proof,

Mentally Unstable
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Inversus is not online. Inversus
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
m16 >>>>>>>>> tmp
tmp is rubbish compared to the m16

uses tmp: break even kdr
uses m16: kdr10+ every time


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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30 Jan 2014 02:38 PM
The damage of the TMP is 13.
The damage of the m16 is 15.

They both have the same accuracy(Raiders are supposed to have better accuracy).

m16 has 30 bullets, TMP has 25.

m16 > tmp

And the shops are broken.
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Nhelp is not online. Nhelp
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30 Jan 2014 02:40 PM
"1. the shops don't work, at least not for raiders"
When was the last time you visited Fang? The shops perfectly work for everyone.

2. haha, don't make me laugh "another shape, fire rate, ammo, etc."
-fire rate and ammo are better for jc
WOW 5 AMMO THAT'S SUCH OP HOLY SNAP DUDE!
Fire rate is increased for JC by like 0.2, so I guess they are truly OP.


-damage is far better for jc
No it is not. I'd gladly show you anytime the guns in a join.me, but not now because I have to go.

"3. and obviously more jc buy it than bwe, because they always defend here
funny how you accuse bwe of being p2w and then say that VIPs are okay in a fort"

As a matter of fact, more people who aren't in JC have bought it.
Almost nobody in JC has those VIPs.
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legomada is not online. legomada
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30 Jan 2014 02:40 PM
It'll be fixed later today/tomorrow, whenever John uploads once I've sent it to him.
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