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| 26 Jan 2014 12:39 PM |
| If he's all powerful then he could just magically make them repent |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:40 PM |
"Free Will" Making everyone good would salvage free will more than letting people do what they want |
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icrazy789
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:40 PM |
| @ starwarsbrony43, people have free will. God does not force you to do anything. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:40 PM |
also wouldnt the devil be at least some good for punishing the bad and i think the vbad should die normally instead of suffering (bc two wrongs dont make a right) while the good are sent to heaven that would be fair yeh
Shadow97 is the most swaggy oter ever and every oter is jelus bcuz shadow97 has money |
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ThAfro
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:41 PM |
| Hes not making anybody anything.Whether people want to follow him or not is up to them. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:42 PM |
because edgy fairy tale book
thats why |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:42 PM |
| "I'm gonna give you the choice not to follow me but then I'll punish you for not following me" |
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ThAfro
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:44 PM |
"I'm gonna give you the choice not to follow me but then I'll punish you for not following me" __________________________________________________ Is he physically making them follow him however? |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:44 PM |
Only if they sin.
~OT's voice of truth and opinion~ |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:45 PM |
| @starwarsbrony43, think of it this way. You are walking down a road and that road splits down two ways. One way leads to pleasure now but suffering later. The other leads to suffering now but pleasure later. You must choose one. Same idea with your belief in God. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:45 PM |
if you do anything on this list you will suffer the worst forms of anguish and pain in existence god is a jerk to creation itself |
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ThAfro
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:46 PM |
| No. Thats not the concept of free will. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:46 PM |
@icrazy
so how is eternal punishment justified? |
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deltav
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:47 PM |
"@starwarsbrony43, think of it this way. You are walking down a road and that road splits down two ways. One way leads to pleasure now but suffering later. The other leads to suffering now but pleasure later. You must choose one. Same idea with your belief in God."
i choose not following the road but carving my own path through the shrubbery it makes me sound manly or something but really the shrubbery only gets knee-high |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:47 PM |
if you do anything on this list you will suffer the worst forms of anguish and pain in existence god is a jerk to creation itself _________________________________________________________ God is a jerk for sacrificing his son so that you may live and have everlasting life? Do you even hear what you're saying?
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:48 PM |
| The sacrifice is pretty meaningless. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:48 PM |
This is a question to THafro
Why does god seem to go go through great lengths to hide his existence? It isn't breaking free will to just say "im here guys" and everyone will believe a god exists. But instead, we get absolutely nothing to go on other than a book (which has many contradictions mind you) that is supposedly the word of god?
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:49 PM |
"God is a jerk for sacrificing his son so that you may live and have everlasting life? " god is a jerk for making a set of obnoxious rules that result in eternal torment if you dont follow them its like an instructions manual for a device that promptly explodes in your face if you accidentally apply too much pressure while wiping the dust off |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:49 PM |
God is a mythical creature just like santa claus(says the athiest) GOD IS POWERFUL ANDD UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SHOULD BE SCURED OF HIM (says the crazy christan) |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:50 PM |
| @obama1337TESTING, God does not punish you, you choose to be punish. It is your choice. If God had not given us free will, we would all do what He wanted and we would all be in Heaven in the end. But God gave us a choice. You choose if you want to have eternal happiness or suffering. |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:50 PM |
| that doesnt answer my question at all. how can infinite punishment ever be just for a finite crime? |
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deltav
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:51 PM |
"Why does god seem to go go through great lengths to hide his existence? It isn't breaking free will to just say "im here guys" and everyone will believe a god exists. But instead, we get absolutely nothing to go on other than a book (which has many contradictions mind you) that is supposedly the word of god?"
there is probably something written among the lines of "true belief and faith" and that it is important and if you succeed you will find yourself rewarded and life was a test after all
its somewhere up there with "friendship is the strongest force in existence" in terms of stupid plot devices |
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| 26 Jan 2014 12:51 PM |
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWAUhadJzTk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVWAUhadJzTk
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