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Re: Clans are slowly dying... and corporate greed is to blame

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practice is not online. practice
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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23 Jan 2014 04:07 PM
I'm never really vocal on anything related to the state of clans, but it's time that I do speak up and share my opinion.

Yes, clans are getting boring. But, more importantly, they're slowly dying out. Who's to blame for it? Is it us? Is it our (what is left) community? No, the instigators are the people who are at the top over everyone and everything: ROBLOX. Corporate greed to make that top dollar is slowly causing us to die.

Some of you are probably already scrolling down to the bottom of the page and getting ready to reply with something like "you're wrong" or "vip clans are the source." In reality, when you take a moment to think, it's really ROBLOXs' fault for causing this. They've completely ignored clans for the past two years (because of the new regime and focusing on the game development aspect) and we haven't seen any great features for groups over the past three years (removing ranks was nice, but was it a major, game-changing feature?).

The future can be much brighter if they did, finally, add something new to groups in order to weed out the plague of VIP clans and scammers who poison this game. They're already doing their best with scammers, by banning people like Acurus, Finalization's alt, and EmperorJohn of BWE (think this is his sixth account now?). Yet, two of them still remain and are still affecting the clan world today.

Anyways, enough with other clans and such; back to the main topic before I turn this into a flame war.

ROBLOX, here's what WE want and NEED DESPERATELY in order to HELP improve the future. If you remember, we were the driving force of this community back from 2009-2011, until ROBLOX finally decided to (almost completely) abandon us and focus on game developers (by the way, the front page is still full of free model games, and that 'indie game' idea thing will never happen because of that).

It's a simple list:
1. some official way of keeping up with clan wars/battles (this can already be developed, but I highly doubt it would become universal unless a major clan were to develop it) (hint: HTTP service)
2. mainly a lot of small, minor things (but they help to 'detail' clans), such as: more of a spotlight on clans (mentioning some clan that nobody knows once a month is not considered a 'spotlight'), removing some restrictions in order to compensate for clan technology advancement, fixing any exploits when they come out
3. listening to us when the majority of us say that such and such is a scammer and that they should be terminated
4. allowing more server resources to be allocated to each place (or let us host our own private servers); this also goes back to the "advancement of clan technology"

This thread will hopefully make it's way over to S&I here before long, I imagine. But, if we want to actually bring back "the old days in clans," we have to somehow persuade ROBLOX to acknowledge us once again. The threshold of clans-places was about 70-30, and now it's more like 40-60 (slowly going to 30-70).

Listening to the same people who "backpacked" your game from 2009-2011 is probably a wise choice; after all, this game didn't suck back then.

Cheers!
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MrZelo is not online. MrZelo
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23 Jan 2014 04:08 PM
Considering you wrote this I didnt take the time to read past the title.
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:08 PM
Considering you replied before reading the entire post, I went ahead and made a mental note about how ignorant you are.
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webspace is not online. webspace
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23 Jan 2014 04:08 PM
i decided to not read what you posted because the title was enough to convince me this wouldn't be worth it

i decided to inform you thusly so you may alter your titles in the future

good day
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francis147 is not online. francis147
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23 Jan 2014 04:09 PM
people's nostalgia about the "good ol' days" makes them think that clans used to be better, but in reality their quality has stagnated.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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23 Jan 2014 04:09 PM
you wasted your time writing this

people say this everyday
we agree
then move on and forget about it in the next 5 minutes


[ I hope you slip and impale yourself on a sandwich ]
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:10 PM
@Web
thx

@President
More and more people realize this every day; thus, the reason as to why you see a 200-word essay on this issue daily.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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23 Jan 2014 04:11 PM
people realize it

but never do anything about it


[ I hope you slip and impale yourself on a sandwich ]
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perpetualbob1234 is not online. perpetualbob1234
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23 Jan 2014 04:11 PM
You're extremely right. I agree with pres too, I think this a lot.
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:12 PM
which is the issue
if you want change to happen, then we have to do something instead of flame and troll each other all day
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LordVledak is not online. LordVledak
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23 Jan 2014 04:12 PM
What Piggy said.
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MrZelo is not online. MrZelo
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23 Jan 2014 04:13 PM
Practice considering your stupidity put a negative effect on this and supported downgrading and thinking its alright to act mentally handy capped, you have no room to talk.

You are a prime example of how bad the community became.
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daniel8599 is not online. daniel8599
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23 Jan 2014 04:13 PM
You forgot the whole price floor issue tho.

#YouOnlyRespawn
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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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23 Jan 2014 04:13 PM
I actually read the entire thing.

I agree with lots of it.

~LV
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:14 PM
yeah my brain does have a wheelchair
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Hacted is not online. Hacted
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23 Jan 2014 04:14 PM
and you're writing this
yeah okay
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crplsteve is not online. crplsteve
Joined: 01 Aug 2011
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23 Jan 2014 04:14 PM
You forgot the PFU.


It's a clan killer.
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EmperorRyan is not online. EmperorRyan
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
Total Posts: 8268
23 Jan 2014 04:15 PM
Practice, i completely agree, and i do think ROBLOX should listen to the people, who basically blew up there game.

I am in, but what do you suggest?

We could try and do a clan-wide winter games sort of thing, and reach front page possibly.

Name the acc ListenToTheClans

and, who cares who earns the profits.
I just care about clan's getting recognized in ROBLOX again.
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:15 PM
well i didn't really write this, hacted
i typed it
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DarkenedReaper123 is not online. DarkenedReaper123
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23 Jan 2014 04:16 PM
Indeed, This new generation is the problem with clans now.
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EmperorRyan is not online. EmperorRyan
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23 Jan 2014 04:16 PM
Still, I can not do this all alone, I could possibly get UCR,JC and maybe RSF involved with this.

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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:17 PM
UCR, JC, and RSF do have some amount of leverage in the clan world. But, this needs to be stated by some super clan leader or familiar clan community member (like rodger or SS).
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bohdan77 is not online. bohdan77
Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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23 Jan 2014 04:17 PM
What does scamming have to do with clans.
Exploits are fixed when they can.
Right, listening to the majority of you? Then JC will win everything as it can just shout on the group wall, to accuse someone of being a 'scammer'.
The servers are powerful enough, stop making loops that run every 1/30 of a second.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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23 Jan 2014 04:18 PM
that escalated quickly


[ I hope you slip and impale yourself on a sandwich ]
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practice is not online. practice
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23 Jan 2014 04:19 PM
@bohdan
i also like how you dodged the idea of official wins and such
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