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Re: POLL: Should only Arctic Countries be able to own Arctic?

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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 06:20 PM
China and France want to own the waters of the Arctic because according to science the artic may own 30% of the natural unknown gases, and 15% of the worlds oil, Canada, Russia, and Denmark (Iceland; Greenland) are trying to also claim the North Pole.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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19 Jan 2014 06:37 PM
The North Pole belongs to Canada even if Justin Trudeau thinks we should leave it up to scientists.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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19 Jan 2014 06:38 PM
^ Are you Kentuckian or Canadian?
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 06:40 PM
TheKentuckian, in fact I believe he supports us owning the north pole, however since Greenland and Canada are almost the exact same to the north pole, I believe it would be okay to split it.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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19 Jan 2014 06:41 PM
Born in Kentucky, live in Canada.
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19 Jan 2014 06:43 PM
"China and France"

lolwat.
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19 Jan 2014 06:43 PM
TheKentuckian, in fact I believe he supports us owning the north pole, however since Greenland and Canada are almost the exact same to the north pole, I believe it would be okay to split it.
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He said that we should let scientists decide which makes no sense because scientists have no say on political boundaries. You cannot split the North Pole because it is a single point. You cannot split a single point into half a point.
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 06:47 PM
That is true, science however is trying to map out how much land we can claim from Alert, Ellesmere Island, since we can claim up to 200 neutical miles.

however, greenland has just as many rights as we do claiming the rights of it, since it is the most northern country, russia isn't even close to the North pole, so I don't think it can just go and plant a flag there and call it theres.
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19 Jan 2014 06:52 PM
That is true, science however is trying to map out how much land we can claim from Alert, Ellesmere Island, since we can claim up to 200 neutical miles.
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Science is not part of political boundaries. There is no reason for science to decide how far we extend our borders.

however, greenland has just as many rights as we do claiming the rights of it, since it is the most northern country, russia isn't even close to the North pole, so I don't think it can just go and plant a flag there and call it theres.
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Canada should own it over Greenland because Alert is the most northerly inhabited place in the world, nothing in Greenland is further north. Since we are the closest inhabitants, it should be ours.
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19 Jan 2014 06:58 PM
Most northern point of the world is owned by Greenland,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffeklubben_Island

You can't just go around and say you own something, first we must map our water, and then if we don't have enough land/water kilometers, we must talk to the UN about increasing it. Which they did about 2 months ago, it could take up to 10 years.
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19 Jan 2014 07:02 PM
You can't just go around and say you own something, first we must map our water, and then if we don't have enough land/water kilometers, we must talk to the UN about increasing it. Which they did about 2 months ago, it could take up to 10 years.
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It is uninhabited and irrelevant. Canada shouldn't need permission from the UN to expand our borders into unclaimed territory. The UN is a useless organization which is bad for Canada.
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19 Jan 2014 07:04 PM
The UN is League of Nations 2.0.
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 07:08 PM
I agree the UN is useless actually, it spent over 300 million helping africans, (I'm not a terrible person trust me, haha)

And in your thought of thinking, if greenland makes a village up on Kaffeklubben Island it should own the north pole. I think thats just silly.

I believe that no countries that are not Artic;Antartic should have a say in who owns the Artic;Antartic
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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19 Jan 2014 07:10 PM
>it spent
The united nations doesn't have money that it didn't receive from nations.
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 07:12 PM
I meant Canada spent 300 million along with tons of other countries helping in Africa, just because of the UN.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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19 Jan 2014 07:13 PM
I agree the UN is useless actually, it spent over 300 million helping africans, (I'm not a terrible person trust me, haha)

And in your thought of thinking, if greenland makes a village up on Kaffeklubben Island it should own the north pole. I think thats just silly.

I believe that no countries that are not Artic;Antartic should have a say in who owns the Artic;Antartic
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Building a settlement for the sole purpose of owning the arctic would not be legitimate. Canada has had claims to the North Pole since 1907, earlier than any other country.
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19 Jan 2014 07:18 PM
I did not know that, however. We may not be able to defend ourselves, Russia is trying to claim it too,
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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19 Jan 2014 07:19 PM
Russia is not as close as we are and doesn't have an historical claim.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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19 Jan 2014 07:21 PM
Russia doesn't seem to care.
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19 Jan 2014 07:22 PM
@Pitt: Alaska.
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 07:22 PM
It may not, but as we can tell from history, if they want something. They'll use force.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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19 Jan 2014 07:23 PM
@flat

Not as old a claim.

Btw, off topic for a second, are you gamert or have I gotten this wrong the entire time?
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 07:23 PM
Personally, the US doesn't really have a right claiming the North pole, its barely a arctic country, and doesn't go nearly as far north as Canada does.
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mariopersons is not online. mariopersons
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19 Jan 2014 07:24 PM
What is a gamret
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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19 Jan 2014 07:27 PM
Not as old a claim.

Btw, off topic for a second, are you gamert or have I gotten this wrong the entire time?
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I am. Remember I got banned and then a series of other alts I had got banned so I made a different aliases.

Hmm, but Russia Colonized Alaska in 1732. Wouldn't that have given them a claim or am I wrong.
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