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Midmyst is not online. Midmyst
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16 Jan 2014 04:24 PM
Background information: Two idiots on RevLeft (a liberal website) were arguing on whether Che Guevera was a "bourgeois imperialist" because the OP probably just found out Che was a racist mass-murderer and he didn't want Marxism's reputation to get tarnished, so he denied Che being socialist at all.

Anyway, the stupidity; bolded some parts for emphasis.

> Originally Posted by RedGuevara
Recently I was discussing with a comrade about Che Guevara and I was presented with the idea that Che wasn't a Marxist or Sociailist but rather just a bourgeoisie Anti-Imperialists. I have a hard time accepting this since He was strictly against the big land owners and helped the Cuban economy become socialized.

What could lead people to believe Che wasn't a Marxist or Socialist and was a bourgeoisie?

> Posted by Kim Jong Illmatic
The Cuban revolution culminated in the nationalization of the Cuban economy, not the socialization. In Marxist theory those are two different things. Nationalization is not socialism. The many reforms brought about by the Castro government that have GREATLY IMPROVED the standard of living in the country DO NOT AMOUNT TO SOCIALISM.
Cuba is a BOURGEOIS nation state with a HIGH STANDARD OF LIVING.

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In case you are a liberal wondering why this sounds so stupid; I'll fill you in. The socialist Cuban government has made Cuba one of the worst and poorest countries in the world; the standard of living is horrible.
Bourgeois is a Marxist term for those who own the means of production, i.e. capitalists, which is extremely bizarre to hear applied to Cuba, where private property and free trade are strictly off limits.
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MrMaoZedong is not online. MrMaoZedong
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16 Jan 2014 04:51 PM
My name would fit right into that forum
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16 Jan 2014 05:28 PM
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SpadeOne is not online. SpadeOne
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16 Jan 2014 05:32 PM
revleft is always stupid they dont even allow people to have opposing views
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Midmyst is not online. Midmyst
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16 Jan 2014 05:38 PM
@Spade

They have a tiny little section for "opposing ideologies" but people with different views can't post anywhere else on the forum, correct. Also, a good chunk of "debate" on Revleft is just people calling each other "reactionaries," which is like the most offensive swear word according to communists. They even call other communists reactionaries. Communists are so very close-minded. XD
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SpadeOne is not online. SpadeOne
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16 Jan 2014 07:02 PM
the opposing ideologies bans pretty much any opposing ideology it says racists fascists n@z1s not allowed yet all of those words are just smear words invented by communists to slander their opponents
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