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Re: EL - Past, Present and Future. #2

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PrinceSan579 is not online. PrinceSan579
Joined: 29 Jul 2013
Total Posts: 5
30 Dec 2013 09:06 AM
Hello, Zapirians.
I just would like to voice my opinion over matters in EL.
Like I said before, its time someone stood up.

1st, trainings. Trainings are just tournaments of SFT and GFT, and that doesn't teach you anything. We need tips how to improve, tips how to counter, tips how to move. Same goes for obbies. Do the obby or fail. No tips about how to do the obby.

2) Rallies and Raids. We rarely have them now. Before EL was even a superclan, just 5K, I remember us having a raid like every day nearly, or every 2 days. And, mostly everyone doesn't know where even the term is until they waste much time. And everyone else is busy, can't tell them the way.

3) Amount of strictness and fun. That's a VERY important issue in EL. You simply have to be "quite" "silence" "shut up or be kicked" etc etc.. Unlike other clans, like NFC, they maintain a good amount of fun while keeping orders.
Do EL HRs think that, if they yell or disrespect LRs, they'll like them or obey their orders? On the complete contrary, all they gain is hatred and resentment.
They don't care whether LRs like them or not, they don't care whether they leave a good influence behind, all they care about is their rank.

Not all High Ranks are like that, but most.

In EL, they force you to do things. In NFC, for example, they tell you kindly and sincerely that's its wrong, and for the greater good of the nation that you shouldn't do that.

There's completely no amount of fun in EL nowadays, unlike olden days. HRs simply don't care to listen for your opinion.

We have no Monthly High Rank Reviews, no votes, no fun activities, they don't care about LRs opinions - they think that they are simple robots that just have to obey or be humiliated.

Simply the same scenario everyday - Defend, Training, Defend, training. And in these trainings, rather, tournaments, you don't learn anything.

Let me bring NFC again as an example.

In Caedis, we have fun. Other HRs show respect, and are kind. They are totally helpful with you. Sometimes they even have fun with you! Members are friendly and respectful, and don't hesitate in answering a question you have. They respect you, even though its the first time you see them.

I am not saying that all members or all High Ranks are that. But, for example, I have seen many a new LR asking a question and other members laughing at him. Can you imagine his feelings? And the High Rank simply hangs around doing nothing - only IF he is in a good mood he'll tell him/her.

I repeat: Not all members or High Ranks are that, but most are.

I see some old High Ranks and members being thrown away - along with all their hard work - being thrown away in the bin, as if they are nothing.
All their hard work - that made EL be the EL we know today - thrown into their faces.
Instead of having a respectable departure ceremony for them, and being saluted for all the hard work they did, what did they receive? Humiliation.

But that's not our topic.

I once made a forum about the High Rank "reform" that happened 1 or 2 months ago. People began saying "Support", "Legitimate thread", "Interesting" "That's what I like in a soldier, he isn't afraid to talk".

^ Note: Most of these are EL soldiers. Mostly HRs.

Look at the reaction of a certain HR, through messages of course.

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EL isn't like those other groups. Please don't compare us.
Not all warclans HAVE to be the same.
Like I said, if you don't like how EL is anymore then leave. :\
I just hate hearing the all the complaints.
If people can't take it, that's not my problem.
That's what they get for picking favorites.
If you don't pick favorites, sure they'll still have an opinion but they'll get over is fast...
I get that people have a life.No need to rage on me, kid.
I'm not stupid. I have a brain.
I know people have crap to do like homework, school, family issues, etc.
I expect you to freaking just accept it.
If Roblox and EL isn't life why do you stress over it so much?
HUH?! HUH???!!??!?!?! TELL ME THAT! Get the FREAK over it, kid!
Like you said yourself basically... IT. IS. JUST. A. GAME. NOT. AT. ALL. IMPORTANT.
So why do you care so much for "just a game." For "something not important."
For "something that doesn't come before real life."
I'm tired of all this crap.
I will start demoting people in EL for complaining and whining about this.
I don't want to hear it anymore.
Idc how the old EL was. Get over it. It's not coming back. If you don't like the way EL is now THEN LEAVE! AND SHUT THE HECK UP!

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How do you think I felt then? Think about it. Imagine it.

I'd like to see your opinions, fellow Zapirian comrades.


~A Zapirian soldier who loves his nation and wishes the best for it.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
Total Posts: 12667
30 Dec 2013 09:09 AM
I love how you keep referring to NFC. Not obvious your main is in NFC or anything.


Keepin' it cool since 2010
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PrinceSan579 is not online. PrinceSan579
Joined: 29 Jul 2013
Total Posts: 5
30 Dec 2013 09:14 AM
Its not just NFC. Let me give other examples.
Roblox Infantry Unit, Imperium Empire.
Regarding votes and matters similar:
United Clan of ROBLOX, FEAR, RSF, etc..
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dejiboy is not online. dejiboy
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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30 Dec 2013 09:32 AM
Okay. ^
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dejiboy is not online. dejiboy
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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30 Dec 2013 09:33 AM
Pres^ Your main is NFC.
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dejiboy is not online. dejiboy
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
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30 Dec 2013 09:41 AM
We had a raid today.

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LordMaleden is not online. LordMaleden
Joined: 22 Dec 2010
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30 Dec 2013 09:44 AM
Points are flawed, but whatever. And no, we aren't NFC. Nor do we want to be.
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SendTrade is not online. SendTrade
Joined: 04 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 185
30 Dec 2013 09:44 AM
That's what I like at a soldier, when he isn't afraid to express himself!
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Retrodagger is not online. Retrodagger
Joined: 14 Mar 2010
Total Posts: 1901
30 Dec 2013 10:00 AM
@deji His main is WIJ.
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seanlatti is not online. seanlatti
Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 260
30 Dec 2013 10:29 AM
@Send He is still afraid because he's not telling us his main.
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jiglojay4 is not online. jiglojay4
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
Total Posts: 539
30 Dec 2013 10:37 AM
Wow, this is
PRETTY accurate, if I do say so myself.
But we have fun at Galvanic when there is no raiders.
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adpunk4445 is not online. adpunk4445
Joined: 13 Oct 2010
Total Posts: 10606
30 Dec 2013 10:38 AM
is this the prince i know...?

the man with the hair?



also
"zapirians"
wow
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Andrew680 is not online. Andrew680
Joined: 20 Apr 2012
Total Posts: 5340
30 Dec 2013 10:39 AM
Sorry but I agree with this.
When I was a General it wasn't so strict and we were good -.-
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seanlatti is not online. seanlatti
Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 260
30 Dec 2013 10:41 AM
It was good. Except for Prince who AA'ed at trainings
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Retrodagger is not online. Retrodagger
Joined: 14 Mar 2010
Total Posts: 1901
30 Dec 2013 10:44 AM
And gaga. Who caused what is known as one of the biggest AA's in EL History.
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Electrifying12 is not online. Electrifying12
Joined: 21 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 580
30 Dec 2013 10:46 AM
I thank you for bringing these points up as a few others have.

Strictness at training is to ensure that you are paying attention and learning what you can. After I get ZAP sorted out, I will be working on actual training methods and not just tournaments.

It is easier to raid whoever you want as a smaller clan than it is as a super clan. People will not see it as a big deal when you're small, but we do not want to start a war so we do not raid as much.

If you watch the wall, people post lots of voting links like Strawpoll all the time to get opinions. As for fun activities, I have planned on bringing back game night and actual tournaments which you can sign up and win ZAP/Money in the new year.

If you'd like your opinion to be heard, you can make a forum and post it on the wall like I believe you did here. I do not know about some others, but I enjoy hearing feedback from my clan members, good or bad.

Old High Ranks left and come back expecting to get their rank back automatically. Yes, a lot of our veterans were very important in making what EL is today, but that does not give them a free pass to High Rank land.

Also, please message me the name of the HR that sent you that message. I do not approve of that kind of rudeness towards anyone under my command, especially to other Zapirians.

I hope this resolved some confusion. If you have any other complaints/issues/comments, do not hesitate to PM me!

~ [EL] Commander Electrifying
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
Joined: 06 May 2013
Total Posts: 500
30 Dec 2013 12:53 PM
I brought this up in the Electro Legion chat room, I'm trying to get some of the EL veterans, as myself, back into EL maybe to see if things change. I do agree with Michael on his comment upon this forum, no one should have sent you such a message and if so you can be sure to send it to any HR+ so it can be dealt with. I understand that I'm a veteran in EL and you might think it's my job to bring things back to the way it once were, but I am not God. Everything takes time and progression, and as EL grows back from once the reform happened and gather good, active HR's we will, I assure you of this, be back to our previous glorious days.

-=[:-Army Veteran Zuus #0-:]=-
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