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Re: so i just played my first pvp game of dota 2

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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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27 Dec 2013 11:28 PM
we won, surprisingly

match number 443035749

pretty much, i went rubick (support), turns out i was actually going mid. i was against a bounty hunter and riki duo mid, they roamed super early, so i was level 6 when they were level 3. bot was a trilane who got the tower under 5 minutes and got first blood. they pushed really hard, i pushed hard, i got a few kills here and there, and legion commander just splitpushed top all day. riki got really fed, we threw hard, but the enemy io was so clueless about dota that it never bought any items, and ended 0/12. ended 5/5/8. riki was 18/4/10.

i have no idea what just happened
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27 Dec 2013 11:30 PM
tl;dr


swiggity swooty
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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27 Dec 2013 11:30 PM
next game was a 2v5, and they had earth spirit and spirit breaker (the two big OP heroes)

wasn't fun

i left
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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27 Dec 2013 11:31 PM
tl;dr i have no idea what just happened
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 12:34 AM
another game

went sven, got super fed (at point, 1v4 ultrakill), we lost because my entire team was full of idiots. all they did the entire game was sit in base defending, letting the enemy team farm. i ended 20/7, where we still lost.

match number 443113545

lesson learned: don't play dota without friends. you pretty much fight 1v5 most of the time.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 12:39 AM
Dota 2? I'm sticking with Lol. I just played A 4 man premade game on Lol actually. I was the only non premade player. I've heard awful stories of people in this same spot, and my fear was through the roof when I realize all of their names had something to do with Detorit (North Detroit, South Detroit etc.)

I'm Canadian, I've never been to Detroit but the stories I've heard... Good lord. I was Top Gangplank, my new (and hopefully permanent. I have high hopes) Main so I did good enough. Got 10 assists before the laning phase ended, all of them by using my ult on other lanes.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 12:46 AM
people argue, "DOTA'S COMMUNITY IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN LEAGUE"

uh, no

here are some examples from recent games i played

game 1: (bot) four raging brazilians (not kidding) fed hard, we still won. they didn't speak english.

game 2: (bot) four english speakers, one russian. the russian was a 0/12 keeper of the light who had boots of travel and dagon. viper mid gave up even though he was carrying, windrunner was raging at everyone, and

game 3: (pvp) extreme trashtalk every second with the only word being "SUCK", or "YOUR MOTHER". it's like middle school hour, except late at night. this is my sven game, the lina was a hypocrite who raged hard at me for following her instructions. trashtalk continued, feeding riki trashtalked, so much trashtalk.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 12:48 AM
"I was Top Gangplank, my new (and hopefully permanent. I have high hopes) Main so I did good enough."

gangplank is the weakest champ in the game right now, because everything he does is outclassed hard.

critplank? yasuo does it better.
ap gangplank? aatrox does it better.
tankplank? literally every tank out there does it better.
carryplank? melee carries aren't viable.
supportplank? no
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 12:59 AM
gangplank is the weakest champ in the game right now, because everything he does is outclassed hard.

Weakest champ in the game? Please. Are we just ignoring people like Galio, AD Sion, Shaco etc? Gangplank if built right is deadly, his ult can provide constant support to other lanes, allowing him to support his entire team while never leaving his lane. His Q hits insanely hard at higher levels. He has an easy early game thanks to his Q (a powerful farming tool.) His W allows him to shrug off any form of CC and his E is a great steroid he can provide to his team.

Also, how dare you insult Supportplank. I will come to your house and smack you till you come to your senses.

Is he the strongest champion in the game? No. Is he the weakest? No. Do I find him incredibly enjoyable with a fun to use kit? Yes.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 01:05 AM
i stopped when you called galio weak

galio is the most sleeper op champion out there, not joking.

HE CAN HEAL FROM TEEMO SHROOMS AND TOWER SHOTS.
HE CAN BULLY SOMEONE OUT OF LANE AND PUSH HARD.
HE IS UNGANKABLE BECAUSE HE IS SO TANKY.
HE CAN HAVE 700 AP WHILE HAVING 3000 HEALTH AND 200 MAGIC RESIST.
HE HAS ONE OF THE BEST ULTS IN THE GAME.

if you called skarner or warwick weak, i would understand

but galio? NO.

ad sion can literally 1v5 if he can get into the range of enemies. he's got infinite scaling health, a targeted stun, and 100% lifesteal.

and shaco is really deadly early, becoming one of the scarier splitpushers out there.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:07 AM
i stopped when you called Gangplank weak

GP is the most sleeper op champion out there, not joking.

HE CAN HEAL FROM TEEMO SHROOMS AND TOWER SHOTS. (W)
HE CAN BULLY SOMEONE OUT OF LANE AND PUSH HARD. (Q, E)
HE IS UNGANKABLE BECAUSE OF HIS KIT (W, E)
HE IS A PIRATE
HE HAS ONE OF THE BEST ULTS IN THE GAME.

if you called skarner or warwick weak, i would understand

but GANGPLANK? NO.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 01:14 AM
well then

tell me what gangplank does

that others don't do better

"HE CAN HEAL FROM TEEMO SHROOMS AND TOWER SHOTS."

you do realize there's a difference between healing up after a teemo shroom, or literally healing FROM a teemo shroom instead of taking damage. and the heal is minimal unless you build AP.

"HE CAN BULLY SOMEONE OUT OF LANE AND PUSH HARD."

riven, pantheon, fiora, mundo, shyvana, and literally every top laner out there laughs at him. his pushing is mediocre as well, compared to galio who can qe to clear an entire minion wave in under a second.

"HE IS UNGANKABLE BECAUSE OF HIS KIT"

if you are overextended, you are screwed because your only escape is a movespeed buff. galio can be overextended, and tank a ton of damage as he speed boosts away.

"HE IS A PIRATE"

can't argue with this

"HE HAS ONE OF THE BEST ULTS IN THE GAME."

so an rng-based slow with laughable damage is one of the best ults in the game. better than galio, karthus, katarina, malzahar, varus, rumble, or rengar.


also, what rank are you?
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:18 AM
so an rng-based slow with laughable damage is one of the best ults in the game. better than galio, karthus, katarina, malzahar, varus, rumble, or rengar.


Best as in to use and one of the most gamechaging. Can Galio turn a teamfight around at bottom lane while still farming at top? Like I've said. I've gotten 10 assists in lane with GP, that's atleast 5 teamfights that I've helped my team win. When my team wins teamsfights they get fed. Then they can do everything for me.


also, what rank are you?

Level 30. Not bringing rank into this. I don't play Ranked, so like... I don't know, the worst possible rank you can get? Cardboard tier? A badge isn't an accurate portrayal of somebody's skills. At the end of the day It's just a shiny badge.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:20 AM
Oh, and...

riven, pantheon, fiora, mundo, shyvana

Riven? Please. Don't compare balanced champs to incredibly OP champs.

Pantheon, does anybody even play him? I honestly never see him.

Fiora: BWAHAHAHHAHA. Tons of fun to use but she is honestly kind of UP now.

Mundo: See Pantehon expect much, much worse.

Shyvana. Is a jungler...?
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:42 AM
Jugding by your lack of a response I'll just assume you've accepted GP as your overlord and now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
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amazingmoney5 is not online. amazingmoney5
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28 Dec 2013 01:47 AM
twisted fate ur done kid
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:50 AM
twisted fate ur done kid

Twisted Fate is pretty much Gambit. I don't care if other people outlcass him. Like Gangplank he is just to amazing to possibly dislike.
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amazingmoney5 is not online. amazingmoney5
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28 Dec 2013 01:52 AM
have you ever watched kaceytron play
shes so bad
like sooo bad
she played as ashri or whatever (the cat girl who has the pop star skin??) and didnt do anything for ~25 minutes then faced up against that tanky lizard champion (i forget their names a lot) who was like a level 15 and she was level 5 and then complained about the game being unbalanced
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 01:55 AM
she played as ashri or whatever (the cat girl who has the pop star skin??)

Ahri

tanky lizard champion

Renekton

That aligator is incredibly Overpowered. Hate laning against him. She has a right to complain dangit!
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 01:56 AM
i didn't post because i was in a game. for whatever reason, it was silvers and pre-30s (us) vs plats and diamonds. wasn't fun.

"Can Galio turn a teamfight around at bottom lane while still farming at top?"

no, but he can single-handedly win a teamfight with a good ult. gangplank just slightly helps and is okay during the laning phase, galio is gamechanging. the game's decided by teamfights anyway. if your team is winning, it wasn't because of a horrible slow and laughable damage of an ult. it was because that galio grouped everyone in a place and made the entire team unable to do anything for two seconds, dealing a couple hundred damage in meanwhile.
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amazingmoney5 is not online. amazingmoney5
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28 Dec 2013 01:56 AM
no
i just checked
it was cho'Gath
idk if he is a tank usually but the only time i faced up against him he had tons of health so (atleast comparatively)
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 02:00 AM
cho is a tank

if you don't shut him down early he becomes near unkillable

used to main him back in season one. three of the items i built on him don't even exist any more. innervating locket, leviathan, and zhonya's ring.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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28 Dec 2013 02:00 AM
horrible slow

Well to be fair 25% isn't terrible. Regardless, while I do agree that GP is not the best, (Nowhere near the worst however.) I play champs based on how much I enjoy them, not how good they are in the current meta (thus I tend to shy away from ranked.)

And besides, it's so satisfying to have more assists then your team combined without even leaving your lane once.

(Also, I still want you to apologize to supportplank.)
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 02:53 AM
i think i'm pretty much done with league though.

i haven't been having any fun for the past five matches, and before that i was only having fun if i played my comfort zone.

the meta is so stale. it's always mundo/shyvana/rengar/olaf top, jinx/sivir/lucian adc, fizz/kassadin/ziggs mid, annie/thresh/sona support, and udyr/vi/diana jungle. out of 117 champions, that's only 13 viable champions. there are almost no exceptions to this, if you try to make an exception then you get yelled at.

riot's matchmaking is godawful as well. i was playing with a level 15 and 29, unranked 30, and a silver v, and what do i get? i was against a silver iv, gold v, platinum iii, diamond v, and level 7 (who was a smurf).

dota, no matter what the problems i may have with it, feels so fresh. IN ONLY THREE GAMES, i've seen a rubick, pudge, sven, phantom assassin, earth spirit, lina, riki, spirit breaker, huskar, abaddon, silencer, drow, bounty hunter, axe, legion commander, lifestealer, nature's prophet, doom, kunkka, io, lion, spectre, lich, alchemist, tusk, and visage. that's right, out of 30 possible heroes (3 games of 10 players), 27 were different. the three similar were riki (noob-friendly pubstomper), drow (noob-friendly carry), and legion commander (new). that's insane. the first game involved us being a better team overall, the second game we lost hard from the beginning, the third game we threw our lead.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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28 Dec 2013 02:54 AM
16 viable champions*
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