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Re: TGI - Vak War

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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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27 Dec 2013 06:41 PM
I wouldn't really care too much if it was a regular "war" but the fact that TGI and Vak agreed to an "endurance war" and then having TGI backing out claiming a win...


It's really stupid.

Only an idiot would think that TGI won legitimately, when backing out and claiming a win, proves to everyone that the clan backing out/claiming victory ran out of their endurance.

Thus proving Vak won the war.


Now, if Tober wasn't an idiot and made the war an actual war, I wouldn't really care too much because most wars end in "autowinning"

Join RAA you pansies.
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govand554 is not online. govand554
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27 Dec 2013 06:41 PM
I am in raa
am I still a pansie sir
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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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27 Dec 2013 06:42 PM
then again

vak broke the war terms, so they could not handle the war fairly.

and instead of fixing it, they made it worse.


SALAM.

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beloxy is not online. beloxy
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27 Dec 2013 06:42 PM
Honestly, it was a mishap on the organizing of the war. They gave rules of war, but never said what happens if a clan breaks them. In my opinion, it was just not organized enough.
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LadyAtaravanStar is not online. LadyAtaravanStar
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27 Dec 2013 06:43 PM
And here we see one of the smart girls.


This race is dying out.
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LordDionysos is not online. LordDionysos
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27 Dec 2013 06:43 PM
In the end, it will end just like the RAT-VAK war.
With both sides clamming a win

Every play is crucial,
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Eclipsin is not online. Eclipsin
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27 Dec 2013 06:44 PM
Both sides broke rules, but I'm leaning more towards VAK as winner.

TGI backing out and claiming an autowin is really low, especially in an "endurance war".

-{E_
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Fauxtillion is not online. Fauxtillion
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27 Dec 2013 06:44 PM
i cant join RAA i like men ◕ ◡ ◕
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stroudie is not online. stroudie
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27 Dec 2013 06:44 PM
I don't think TGI won, however I wouldn't say VAK deserved to win.

If this were any other type of war I'd say it's a draw, seeing as both sides broke so many war agreements.
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BlackHawk100 is not online. BlackHawk100
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27 Dec 2013 06:44 PM
VAK updated SMO more times than I have fingers and toes.
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Arickan is not online. Arickan
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27 Dec 2013 06:46 PM
So TGI was supposed to just ignore the breeches of the war terms?


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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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27 Dec 2013 06:46 PM
@eclipsin

true, both sides broke the rules.

but vak broke them first, and did not decide to fix it when we gave them the chance.

go check out smo.


SALAM.
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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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27 Dec 2013 06:47 PM
Again, it was an endurance war.

War terms being broken should have already had consequences.

Claiming an autowin over terms being broken makes you look like a bunch of kindergarteners.
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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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27 Dec 2013 06:48 PM
@decep

then name a good consequence.

if you can't handle the war terms, you can't handle the war.


SALAM.
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Arickan is not online. Arickan
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27 Dec 2013 06:49 PM
We tried to enter rational discussion with VAK, to revert the changes made to SMO, and return the state of affairs to as they were at the beginning of the war.

This was met with a lack of cooperation on VAK's part.
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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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27 Dec 2013 06:50 PM
do you know how annoying it was that EVERYTIME we recieved a victory, vak updates the game.

it's still very funny they still call smo "Snowy Moon Outpost [1.7.0]"


SALAM.
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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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27 Dec 2013 06:50 PM
If you can't handle war terms being broken, then don't start and "endurance war" for the sole purpose of raiding and raiding, until one side can't handle it.


To be honest, you have to be an idiot and let your base go unupdated for a few months, especially with ROBLOX breaking tools and vehicles every so often.
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LadyAtaravanStar is not online. LadyAtaravanStar
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27 Dec 2013 06:51 PM
Th whole clan not defending or patrolling their own fort for weeks is not being able to handle war.
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BlackHawk100 is not online. BlackHawk100
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27 Dec 2013 06:52 PM
That's ironic coming from VAK.

> arcane
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Arickan is not online. Arickan
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27 Dec 2013 06:52 PM
So the updates made to SMO were solely due to breakage caused by ROBLOX updates?

I didn't think so.
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PappyJR99 is not online. PappyJR99
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27 Dec 2013 06:52 PM
Okay, both sides broke war terms, but look at this.

TGI claims SMO is very unfair due to all the updates added, and we broke a huge war term by updating it alot, but it's very ironic of them to say it when they broke it more... They brought in a WHOLE new base... They went from Stronghold II to CHANGING IT to Alexandria breaking the war term more, than bringing back SH II
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Arickan is not online. Arickan
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27 Dec 2013 06:54 PM
Alexandria is actually more unfair than Stronghold II.

The rule stated that the bases could not become more unbalanced (as SMO did), not that they could not be changed.

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PappyJR99 is not online. PappyJR99
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27 Dec 2013 06:55 PM
@ Arickan

It said no huge updates, which changing a whole base is a huge (update) as everything that comes is new for the most part.

You can't deny that.
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Flammavir is not online. Flammavir
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27 Dec 2013 06:55 PM
"If you can't handle war terms being broken, then don't start and "endurance war" for the sole purpose of raiding and raiding, until one side can't handle it."


we can handle the endurance war, but we were expecting the vaktovians to handle the terms as well as we did.


"To be honest, you have to be an idiot and let your base go unupdated for a few months, especially with ROBLOX breaking tools and vehicles every so often."


i do agree that will happen, but the vaktovians did not do that, they just changed it on how it supports them.


SALAM.
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LadyAtaravanStar is not online. LadyAtaravanStar
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27 Dec 2013 06:56 PM
The reason of the updates does not even matter.
The war term was not to update anything overpowered.

TGI basically cried about *any* update, even how minor. They do not want *any* update...I mean, nothing overpowered got added.

Like, stop crying...Like...endurance war. Deal with it or something?
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