Sanchez6
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| 27 Dec 2013 12:52 PM |
I'm coming back. This could just be temporary, but I'm going to do whatever I can to make this a better place. If we succeed, I have reason to stay. If we don't, I leave forever, knowing with my peace of mind that I did everything I could to try and save this dying community.
I'm sad about what has happened in the clan world, and I desire to fix it. Needless to say, this cannot be done alone. I do not desire to lead this. Heck, I could be a pawn in this operation for all I care. The only thing that is cared about is this clan world. We need this to stay here. Regardless of how we feel about each other. Clans were once the most unique experience I've had on the internet. Somehow, a group of people came together and created a strong community that lasted for more than 5 years! Keeping this tradition is important. I refuse to let it die here and now at the worst of times.
We can pull out of this downward spiral of death and decay. We can return from the ashes as we have in the past, into the next generation of clans.
I have a plan. You will all make some sort of sacrifice, but it will be for the better, I assure you. It is either this or the latter, then end of the clan world as we once knew it.
At this moment in time, we have these people to help us: Sanchez6 Nervion thevaultdweler Cirvius KeepMeWarm dravum ADeadPoet Unencountered indicize sillyskullz93 Victrium Jackflarp CarlosVenom Pyramis bloxed SuitorsShadow KaptianAhab formulation PurgedAtoms alexto56 ninjasamuraiux Reunification Battery125
They have decided that something is wrong in the clan world, and we NEED to fix it. The list is ever growing, and there are others that supported my old thread that I wrote yesterday night. Thank you. Together we stand to make a new era of clans.
1. SACRIFICE
As I have said earlier, we must all make sacrifices in order to continue the clan world in a somewhat stable state.
I believe that the beginning of this destruction started with the introduction of final battles for other purposes than close wars that raged for many months at a time. When RCL came out, BAM. Final battles 1 week after the war had started. Give this up. If wars last for a week, there is nothing substantial keeping the community alive. Nothing can be talked about other than a total of 20 people. There is no way to discuss a war and debate who will win when only battle has occurred for 7 days! A sum of 1000 based upon 10 soldiers is what a final battle is. This does not accurately depict a clan's strength, and endurance. That is entirely 100% unacceptable. Stop it.
I propose that only if a war has lasted for 6 months, a final battle is to take place. If the war ends any sooner, it is due to a surrender. Battles will rage, a pure battle of endurance up until the 6 month point. This, however, is not the preferred way to have things done. I encourage people to NOT have final battles under any circumstances.
Mercenaries. How disgraceful. I admit, I once used a merc. He wasn't paid, but he wasn't from my clan. He came only to fight in a final battle. Honestly, I am only able to look back at it now and see how unfair I was to the other team. Mercs are stupid. They cause flame wars. It is pure cheating. Don't do it.
2. FORUMING
This is a forum for clans, and should be treated as such. This is not about what you did at school today, or what you think about other people. This forum, named "Clans & Guilds" is named that for a reason. The content inside of "Clans & Guilds" should be exactly that, clans and guilds discussion. Emphasis on discussion.
This is not a place to argue about AA, or have flame wars. Discuss without insulting others, be polite, and maintain an understanding of respect among your fellow forumers. You may DEBATE. Debating is far different from arguing. In a debate, sides take turns, and discuss the issues at hand. If you disagree with someone, DISAGREE WITH THEM. Do NOT point out any and all of their faults because their opinion differs from yours. Have a civilized conversation with the people who you disagree with.
Entertain a positive discussion among others. Bring up valid points, and discuss them. Help other people with things they don't know about. Give honest views of whole situations. But while doing so, be polite. Don't bash the others for not knowing what they are talking about. Just inform them, so that they are up to date on all of the issues at hand.
3. WARS
Wars are to be agreed on. End of story. This is not real life. You cannot just jump on a clan and say "YOU ME WAR." A formal document of war should be written, including rules, guidelines, final battle date (if you choose to have one, again, not advised), raid win limit (should you choose this format), and places to be raided on each side. Allies can be brought in, but you must allow the other side to bring in their's too. That's what allies are meant for.
A war ends with either one side surrendering, or one side winning a final battle. The final battle's EARLIEST date to be held is exactly 6 months after the war's start. This means that if a war begins on March 3rd, a final battle may be held September 3rd. This is not the only time, however. The war opposing sides could agree to any date later in the future.
It would be advised to plan your final battle (if it is chosen to have one, not advised) as soon as the war starts, in the war document. Both sides must agree to the time, place, and host. Participants are to be chosen at this time, too. If one is to leave the clan, the leader must fill the missing spot in ASAP.
It is advised that you choose either the "Raid Win Limit" format, or the "Endurance" format for you wars. Endurance wars, obviously named so, end when one side cannot take it anymore, and gives up. The raid win limit format involves a number of raid wins to win the whole war. A number is to be set at which a side wins. The best number, I believe, is 100. Raids count as wins. Only raids. If you win a defense, you do not gain an overall point for the war, nor does the other side lose one. The first to the decided number of wins, is the winner.
Once the wear is over, the winner is allowed to put the loser's name in their defeated list. All lists should be kept up to date.
4. ENACTMENT
Now, this whole plan will obviously take a long time to come together and be successful. We can speed up the process by spreading the word of this movement. If you plan on making a clan, please do so with this thread in mind, and follow the guidelines. Any clans that you are currently in, tell your leader and HRs of this movement. The more clans that come together to work this whole thing out, the higher chance of success and awareness among C&Gers.
I propose that we build an HQ, a base of operations for this plan. We will have meetings here, and discuss how we move forward with the plan. We'll have departments running different parts of the operation. For example, Department of Recruitment, Department of Awareness, Department of Clan Affairs, and so on.
If we do succeed, this HQ for our movement will stay in place, holding the clan world together as one, and working to make sure all goes well. There will be representatives from clans who participate in this movement, putting their say into the operation. There is still hope yet for a better clan world.
We have a chance to fix the community. Everyone has a role to play. I've set down the groundwork for you. It's your turn to use it.
Sanchez6
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Cirvius
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| 27 Dec 2013 01:15 PM |
good idea
probably wont work unless you get actual superclans to go with it not just a list of people |
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| 27 Dec 2013 01:22 PM |
omg hi sanchez
I am ur biggest fannn |
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Cirivio
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Sanchez6
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| 27 Dec 2013 02:55 PM |
Bump.
Tell everyone you know of this! |
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Sanchez6
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| 27 Dec 2013 03:08 PM |
This is now the full list:
Sanchez6 Nervion thevaultdweler Cirvius KeepMeWarm dravum ADeadPoet Unencountered indicize sillyskullz93 Victrium Jackflarp CarlosVenom Pyramis bloxed SuitorsShadow KaptianAhab formulation PurgedAtoms alexto56 ninjasamuraiux Reunification protector57 Battery125 Kartoonkid bubbaroots |
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darkwisp
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| 27 Dec 2013 04:29 PM |
Support!
{_=-::Vekronian Guard::]-=_} |
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Eclipsin
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Zippa01
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| 27 Dec 2013 04:47 PM |
Supported, welcome back, Sanchez.
Merry Christmas! |
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Cirvius
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Nervion
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Sanchez6
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| 28 Dec 2013 10:30 AM |
| Bump for the people who didn't see. |
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vcdogv
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| 28 Dec 2013 12:09 PM |
| Full support my brother Sanchez6. Im with you all the way. |
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| 28 Dec 2013 03:39 PM |
Support But dont expect idiots to agree with this Expect massive trollers
{Phail with a PH} sloths r lov sloths r lif |
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| 28 Dec 2013 03:55 PM |
Yeah supported !
Also...welcome back san :D |
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| 28 Dec 2013 04:31 PM |
| Welcome back Sanchez. Full support! |
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| 28 Dec 2013 09:40 PM |
Support, this is amazing. Nicely written, well planned out, thank you.
Signed, KeepMeWarm (kellapod)
» ♦ [KeepMeWarm] kellapod :] |
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