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Re: I'd be happy if they removed free speech for certain people

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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Dec 2013 08:20 PM
If you're going to say something to deliberately incite hatred of a certain type of people or talk about the betterment of one type of people over another, you deserve to go to jail.

Free speech right now allows idiots like the West Boro Baptist Church and whole groups of Neo's and Islamist's to spew their dodgy propaganda without consequence for what they say.

People who speak their mind about the governments have a right to.

People who preach racial/ethnic/religious/LGBT hatred shouldn't have any rights at all.




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foot740 is not online. foot740
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22 Dec 2013 08:26 PM
you are denying people of their own opinions then
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TariqIbnZiyad is not online. TariqIbnZiyad
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22 Dec 2013 08:26 PM
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Midmyst is not online. Midmyst
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22 Dec 2013 08:26 PM
This is why leftism is dangerous and oppressive. Libertarians support freedom of speech for all people, even those they disagree with.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Dec 2013 08:33 PM
"This is why leftism is dangerous and oppressive."

You know nothing about the political spectrum at all and should be quiet from now on because right-wing is actually the restriction on human rights.




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TariqIbnZiyad is not online. TariqIbnZiyad
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22 Dec 2013 08:38 PM
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neepbeepbop123 is not online. neepbeepbop123
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22 Dec 2013 08:40 PM
You can't pick and remove parts of an amendment you baboon.
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RobloxNavySeals is not online. RobloxNavySeals
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22 Dec 2013 08:53 PM
No, this post proves that leftism is the true danger to liberty.
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TariqIbnZiyad is not online. TariqIbnZiyad
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22 Dec 2013 09:10 PM
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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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22 Dec 2013 09:13 PM
I completely disagree.
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ZacmacReborn is not online. ZacmacReborn
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22 Dec 2013 10:17 PM
You don't have to protect speech that is popular and safe. This is the kind of speech the amendment is made for.
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Malchizedek is not online. Malchizedek
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22 Dec 2013 10:19 PM
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ArchitectOfEden is not online. ArchitectOfEden
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22 Dec 2013 10:22 PM
And this is why liberals are idiots, kids.
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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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22 Dec 2013 10:22 PM
"leftism"

*authoritarianism
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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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22 Dec 2013 10:22 PM
"liberals"

*authoritarians

"People who preach racial/ethnic/religious/LGBT hatred shouldn't have any rights at all."

I couldn't disagree further.
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ZacmacReborn is not online. ZacmacReborn
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22 Dec 2013 10:23 PM
Instead of removing ignorant speech, why not educate those to form better ideas and opinions of the world around them?
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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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22 Dec 2013 10:23 PM
"Instead of removing ignorant speech, why not educate those to form better ideas and opinions of the world around them?"

Because that requires educating the population, and the government sees that as extremely dangerous.
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ZacmacReborn is not online. ZacmacReborn
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22 Dec 2013 10:27 PM
Agendas are the most dangerous barriers to an actual working, democracy, something even the US doesn't do with great efficiency.

Also, hey, xc6/calum. Nice to see you back on the forums.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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22 Dec 2013 11:20 PM
The only reason someone should be in prison for speech is if they promote violent criminal activity. Otherwise, inciting hatred is okay. Are you offended? Too bad. I don't get offended when people ridicule Jews. Why? Because I am a mature person who deals with hate, I don't cry and demand that the government restrict people's most basic right.

Seriously, grow up. Restricting people's rights because you are too childish to deal with hate is unjustified. Loran that not everything is supposed to be happy with flowers and unicorns. Stopping them from speaking will not make their opinions go away, it will just make them angrier and may resort to violence instead.
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RobloxNavySeals is not online. RobloxNavySeals
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22 Dec 2013 11:23 PM
lol @ socialism
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rat57 is not online. rat57
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23 Dec 2013 12:20 AM
"I don't get offended when people ridicule Jews."
Let me ask you one question: if you saw a Jew getting bullied in the street, would you do anything about it?

"Because I am a mature person who deals with hate, I don't cry and demand that the government restrict people's most basic right."
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: FREE SPEECH HAS ITS LIMITS.

Did you think your post through?
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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23 Dec 2013 12:21 AM
Rat, I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. How far you agree on this I don't know, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with common sense.
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neepbeepbop123 is not online. neepbeepbop123
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23 Dec 2013 12:36 AM
Free Speech does not have limits. No idea has limits. Natural rights brohan.
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neepbeepbop123 is not online. neepbeepbop123
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23 Dec 2013 12:40 AM
If by bullied , you mean beat up, in an adult situation, I would hold a gun to their head. If children are just bullying than I would break it up.
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ViktorPavicic is not online. ViktorPavicic
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23 Dec 2013 01:54 AM
"LGBT hatred"

What's wrong with that? I come from a culture where most people dislike it.
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