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Re: Blood & Steel [WW2 tactical ISRP]

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mimalover is not online. mimalover
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
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23 Dec 2013 12:55 PM
This is just a heads up for my upcoming ISRP. Taking place in Stalingrad, the participant will participate in every stage of this great battle. As with my previous RP's of the same type, this RP will be largely based on actual historic events, it will feature a realistic atmosphere and true ground combat showing as much as possible the true horrors of war which every infantryman had to endure.

The participant will assume the role of an infantryman in the 369th Croatian Reinforced Infantry Regiment (known also as the Croatian Legion) fighting under the Wehrmacht. The unit was created by the governemnt of the Independent State of Croatia soon afther the countries forming by Germany and was strictly a volunteer only unit comprised mostly of Croats and Bosnian Muslims. After it's forming and training, the unit was immediately transported to the Eastern Front and by the end of 1941, it was attached to the 100th Light Infantry Division under Army Group South command. It participated actively in the operations launched by the Army Group and by the end of September of 1942, it reached Stalingrad which was the height of it's fame. In Stalingrad, the Regiment was involved in the heaviest of fightings. Some of their more famous battles involve storming the Red October Factory (as made popular by the movie - Enemy at the Gates) and the assault on Mamayev Hill. Interestingly enough, this unit was the only non German unit fighting directly in the city. As Italian, Romanian and Hungarian troops were protecting the flanks of the Germans in Stalingrad, they were not considered good enough to enter the city itself. The Croatian Legion however, was one of the better units to fight in the Wehrmacht and was widely respected during it's existence maintaining good discipline and organization even after losing alot of it's manpower in the battle.

Like my previous RP's, I will keep to an episodic structure with each episode representing one event which after completion proceeds to another event. I will only be accepting one participant so the most capable and experienced roleplayer among those willing to join shall be selected.

To boost realism I will be using the units war journal which containts good descriptions of the battles the unit participated in.

So, who's interested? Feel free to ask any questions.
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EpicBoyMike is not online. EpicBoyMike
Joined: 25 Dec 2011
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23 Dec 2013 12:59 PM
I'm interested. Count me in.
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
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23 Dec 2013 01:02 PM
Good, good. By the time I make this RP, I will notify the selected person and we will be able to start this off.

Of course, before I actually do make this I will need to read through the units jorunal a bit to get a good idea of how I want to progress the story.

Anybody else?
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 01:03 PM
I want to be a German in the Waffen SS or a Panzer division
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 01:05 PM
Well too bad.

I'm keeping to the Croatian Legion.
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HisseyLeSnake is not online. HisseyLeSnake
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23 Dec 2013 01:06 PM
Count me in, this sounds interesting.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 01:09 PM
Dude at least have me in Panzer division
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 01:12 PM
I'm afraid that your desires are not my preferences and I can not comply with them.

The Croatian Legion was an infantry regiment and as such, it didn't have any armored vehicles. I can not even consider the possibility of changing the involved unit as the whole RP centers around it.
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 03:38 PM
Shameless self bump of attention
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fearlessblacksword is not online. fearlessblacksword
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23 Dec 2013 03:40 PM
Oh, come on. Croatia has to have SOME tanks or armored (or unarmored) vehicles.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 03:42 PM
Panzers were used A LOT in the battle of stalingrad
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 03:51 PM
The Croatian Legion had no armored vehicles under it‘s command. Any needed tank support was called upon and the infantry support tanks would then be deployed to the area of attention.

I am aware of the number of tanks used in the battle but the fact is that most units involved were infantry divisions without any armored vehicles. Besides, Stalingrad was a death trap for any tank crew with its narrow streets. Also, tanks will be present in this RP but the player won‘t be directly commanding a tank.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 04:14 PM
WW2 soldiers are turning in their graves. You must have googled this topic. THE ENTIRE TOWN WAS A DEATHTRAP FOR THE GERMANS!
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podraptor is not online. podraptor
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23 Dec 2013 04:15 PM
I'm in
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 04:26 PM
You seem to be lacking logic. By saying that the town was a death trap for a tank crew I was stating a historic fact. This fact didn‘t, in any way, undermine the efforts and hardships of the Axis soldiers.

You didn‘t seem to acknowledge the hardships of the Soviets who suffered greater casulties in the battle. Can I essentially draw a conclusion that you undermined the Soviet efforts in the battle? Using your logic, I can. And you only mentioned the Germans. Do you not know that other Axis nations contributed to the battle directly and indirectly?
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abuca222 is not online. abuca222
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23 Dec 2013 04:27 PM
Im in.
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 04:29 PM
Good. Glad to see many interested people.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 04:35 PM
Well you want to flame war it up so I guess lets get the pyrotechnics going.


The entire eastern front was a deathtrap for the axis. The stupidest decision by the axis was attacking Russia. History repeats itself. Napoleon attacked russia and it ended up as a deathtrap.
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abuca222 is not online. abuca222
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23 Dec 2013 04:36 PM
Twice as many soviets died than germans.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 04:46 PM
yes but Germany ultimately lost
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 05:11 PM
I don't really want to argue with somebody who calls the Soviet Union, Russia. Russia was only one nation in the Union of the socialist states which included many other nations. Calling it the whole country Russia is basically denying the exisence of those countries.

Besides, the Axis nations had no choice but to attack the USSR. You don't know much about history if you claim otherwise. The Axis attack was simply a smart first strike as the Soviet Union would eventually join the war, Germany declaring war or not. The sheer influence and power of the Soviet union meant that they could not avoid a major world war for too long. They had to get involved sooner or later. And the Germans thought it better be sooner when the USSR was ill-prepared. We can not deny the fact that the initial German attack practically destroyed the Soviet forces and they almost lost the war in that first year.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 05:21 PM
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was already in the war. Germany was their ally. Attacking the USSR was the dumbest move any country could have made.
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Davis2211 is not online. Davis2211
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23 Dec 2013 05:24 PM
PM me when it comes out!
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mimalover is not online. mimalover
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23 Dec 2013 05:32 PM
The Soviet Union was not yet at war and Germany and the USSR were never allies. They only signed a non-aggression pact in mutial interest. But they were still suspicious of each other and pretty hostile towards eachother prior to the war. Their ideological differances made sure of that.

Stalin, with his high ambitions, would have attacked Germany if he had the chance. In 1941 however, he was not yet ready. The Germans simply played the safe game and attacked them early on. If they had hesitated for too long, the Soviets would just naturally keep growing with their huge manpower and Stalin would eventually declare war on Germany. I state this is a fact. No argument can dispute this fact.
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Cpt5 is not online. Cpt5
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23 Dec 2013 05:48 PM
If that's a fact than another fact is America nuked itself in 1775.
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