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Re: Democracy is a terrible system.

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Midmyst is not online. Midmyst
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20 Dec 2013 04:18 PM
Democracy is really just a fancy word for mob rule. It's a word frequently tossed around by both the right and left wing. But let's examine what they really mean when they say that.

When a right-winger talks about democracy in a positive sense, he's usually talking about a representative, constitutional republic. Where everyone is equal before the law, and everyone has certain unalienable rights, like freedom of speech or freedom of religion.

When a left-winger talks about democracy in a positive sense, he's usually talking about mob rule. What this is, is allowing the 51% of the population to take away the rights of the 49%. If the majority decide that, say, black people can't vote, then it is the almighty will of the people! No more blacks voting! Oh, but that doesn't sound like something liberals would do, Midmyst! Oh? Well, what if the majority of people decided to outright seize the wealth of the rich and give it to the poor? Or to make it illegal to own guns? Yeah, you see where I'm getting at?

Democracy is just 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for dinner.

(Obviously, my support lies in the constitutional republic)
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 04:58 PM
I agree with everything you said on this thread, Although my ideology is Anarchism, i don't see that happening, and the fairest thing i see, is a Constitutional republic.
Even the founding farthers of America said they hated the idea of a democracy
What if 51% if a nation vote and the other 49% don't get what they want?
No freedom for most people.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:30 PM
Demogracy is still better than dictatorship (1 person takes the rights of everyone), Anacrhism (The most violent person takes the rights of everyone),...

Then tell me, what is better? Having 51% with rights or having 1 person with rights?
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Midmyst is not online. Midmyst
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20 Dec 2013 05:32 PM
The best government is obviously, as I have already said, is a constitutional republic. Where 100% of people have rights.
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 05:37 PM
Anacrhism (The most violent person takes the rights of everyone

2013, you clearly know nothing about Anarchism, in an Anarchist world, noone takes the rights of Anyone, there are small societies all bound together by a loose string of Laws that are upheld by the general public.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:43 PM
But you aren't allowed to start votes to change laws or plans then! For example: A city wants to demolish a building! But you and more peoples needs the building! You wouldn't be able to start a voting against the demolition!
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:47 PM
"2013, you clearly know nothing about Anarchism, in an Anarchist world, noone takes the rights of Anyone, there are small societies all bound together by a loose string of Laws that are upheld by the general public"

Do you know how a dictator gets power? Do you seriously think that would work in countries China?
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 05:50 PM
But you aren't allowed to start votes to change laws or plans then! For example: A city wants to demolish a building! But you and more peoples needs the building! You wouldn't be able to start a voting against the demolition

If you needed the building they wouldn't be demoloshing it

Also, for the china thing
It's an ideology
I don't expect it to work worldwide, if it works at all.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:50 PM
Anacrhism means in my sight:
Violence everywhere, groups are fighting eachother, nothing is organized, burning and damaged buildings, food and fresh water gets rare,...
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 05:53 PM
Then your sight is wrong

Anarchism is this, as an Ideology

Many small societys or larger societys living together peacefully, there is lots of freedom and barely any crime as the general public uphold a loose string of laws.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:53 PM
"If you needed the building they wouldn't be demoloshing it"

A rest home for old, weak people, community buildings,...
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 05:54 PM
"Many small societys or larger societys living together peacefully, there is lots of freedom and barely any crime as the general public uphold a loose string of laws"

Barely crime in a place with a lots of freedom? *laughts*
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 05:54 PM
Exaclty, they wouldn't demolish it if it was being used you idiot
They probably would if it was a Democracy, where the Individual doesn't count only the majority but in a constitutional republic
The individual is counted and has there own rights that cannot be taken away
if it the old peoples home was being used, it wouldn't be nocked down
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 05:55 PM
Barely crime in a place with a lots of freedom? *laughts*

You clearly know nothing
Lots of freedom, with loose LAWS upheld by the GENERAL PUBLIC

read what i say you autistic tw@t before writing a comment.
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tiresomehoopla is not online. tiresomehoopla
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20 Dec 2013 05:59 PM
Anarchism is just the abolishment of government altogether.

Basically what happens is what everybody wants to do. Perhaps everyone does their own thing. Or perhaps the people form communities.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 06:00 PM
"Exaclty, they wouldn't demolish it if it was being used you idiot
They probably would if it was a Democracy, where the Individual doesn't count only the majority but in a constitutional republic
The individual is counted and has there own rights that cannot be taken away
if it the old peoples home was being used, it wouldn't be nocked down"

That is worse! So the city wouldn't be able to demolish any building that is used? Dilapidated buildings?

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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 06:01 PM
Exactly what tire said, however in these communities there would be a loose law to keep crime out, many people do there own thing without being opressed by a government
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 06:02 PM
The government couldn't knock down any buildings that are being used by the community or being used as houses
Buildings that are about to collapse or aren't used will be knocked down

Honestly 2013, it's like you actually try to be stupid.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 06:03 PM
"You clearly know nothing
Lots of freedom, with loose LAWS upheld by the GENERAL PUBLIC

read what i say you autistic tw@t before writing a comment."

General public?...Hmm
Criminals, Mafia...
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 06:04 PM
Since when were the criminals and mafia the general public?
by your logic, if there was no government, everyone would randomly start killing people.
Well 2013, it doesn't work that like, if there was no government, people would do there own thing, Hunting if they wanted to, work together in societys run by the Public
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20 Dec 2013 06:07 PM
"The government couldn't knock down any buildings that are being used by the community or being used as houses
Buildings that are about to collapse or aren't used will be knocked down"

Hmmm...
The population in the city can decide that in a democracy!
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 06:09 PM
No, no they can't
what if the city has a Population of 20,000 people and 10,001 vote for it to be knocked down, are you just going to ignore 9,999 people because 1 more person wanted it down?
It's stupid, even the founding farthers of america hated Democracy.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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20 Dec 2013 06:15 PM
"Since when were the criminals and mafia the general public?
by your logic, if there was no government, everyone would randomly start killing people.
Well 2013, it doesn't work that like, if there was no government, people would do there own thing, Hunting if they wanted to, work together in societys run by the Public"

Criminals and mafia are a part of the general public!

And i see you are very optimistic.

Peoples would start killing, blackmail or kidnap to get more power! It's not like everyone has freedom and a peaceful life in their societys!
And there won't be greedy societys...no! (sarcasm)
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droid329 is not online. droid329
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20 Dec 2013 06:16 PM
On a side note it is possible to win the US presidential election with 22% of the total population voting for you. That's not exactly everyone is equal before the law. 1 person's vote in Wyoming is worth the same as 4 Californians' votes in the end.

[~DR9~]
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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20 Dec 2013 06:18 PM
And i see you are very optimistic.

Peoples would start killing, blackmail or kidnap to get more power! It's not like everyone has freedom and a peaceful life in their societys!
And there won't be greedy societys...no! (sarcas

Human nature is to Survive, there wouldn't be leaders.
There would be a small soceity running together for the sake of themselves, Power within all of them, not just one.
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