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Re: We kill animals so we can eat them

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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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20 Dec 2013 07:35 AM
Are we not killing plants also?
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ferrykeizer is not online. ferrykeizer
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20 Dec 2013 07:36 AM
No I dont eat plants.
I find that heartless.

I'm a meatarian.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:36 AM
Yes we are
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jontejg96 is not online. jontejg96
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20 Dec 2013 07:38 AM
Plants aren't sentient. Sure, you are killing the plants, but they were never alive in the same way that animals are.
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Dindledod is not online. Dindledod
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20 Dec 2013 07:38 AM
Shh, Paul McCartney is coming...
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:38 AM
"Plants aren't sentient."

Animals don't have self-awareness.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:39 AM
And when I say "animals", I mean the majority of animals in the animal kingdom, excluding Humans, Apes, Dolphins and a few other exceptions.
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ferrykeizer is not online. ferrykeizer
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20 Dec 2013 07:40 AM
''Animals don't have self-awareness.''
That's a matter of debate though isn't it?
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:40 AM
"That's a matter of debate though isn't it?"

Nope.
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Dindledod is not online. Dindledod
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20 Dec 2013 07:41 AM
Well people still have to be sure to kill animals in a humane way. Otherwise it can be charged for animal cruelty, I think.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:41 AM
Well, you can debate anything you want to, but debating a fact can sometimes be called lying or avoiding the truth.
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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20 Dec 2013 07:42 AM
So because there not sentient it okays to tear their heads off?
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jontejg96 is not online. jontejg96
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20 Dec 2013 07:43 AM
It's definitely debatable whether animals have self-awareness or not, and like you mentioned, it very much depends on the species.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:43 AM
"So because there not sentient it okays to tear their heads off?"

According to human perspective and rights, yes.

Same goes for most animals, though some countries have humane laws in place to help reduce "inhumane" killings.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:44 AM
"It's definitely debatable whether animals have self-awareness or not"

Nope. Look it up.
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Pewts is not online. Pewts
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20 Dec 2013 07:45 AM
@calum

self awareness =/= sentinence

even the stupidest animals can experience emotion. plants just grow, eat, reproduce, they don't feel.
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Dindledod is not online. Dindledod
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20 Dec 2013 07:47 AM
Animals can feel pain, yes. But that's why you gotta make it quick.
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bobthecheeseburger is not online. bobthecheeseburger
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20 Dec 2013 07:47 AM
I say that if we kill an animal with a small amount of pain and put the carcass to good use, then it's ok.
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calum is not online. calum
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20 Dec 2013 07:48 AM
"self awareness =/= sentinence"

But sentience doesn't matter when it comes to rights. Self-awareness does.
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