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| 18 Dec 2013 09:14 PM |
| In truth nobody wants equality for all people they want rights for a certain group of people; nobody is wanting adults who're interested in children to have theirs become legal. Yet they agree with their own. Nobody wants somebody murdering another person to be legal thereby oppressing murders. See? It isn't social equality. It is rights for a selected group of people. |
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| 18 Dec 2013 10:58 PM |
| That's totally missing the point. |
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| 18 Dec 2013 11:09 PM |
| No it isn't. You can not scream equality for all but only want equality for your own group. |
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| 18 Dec 2013 11:24 PM |
| "One group" means (in your examples) 1 activiy few ever do. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 01:20 AM |
"One group" means (in your examples) 1 activiy few ever do. ---------- What's your point? No matter how small there still isn't equality for them. You can't say equality for all when you ignore people outside of your conceding views. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 01:36 AM |
| My point is that's stupid. With such minor points you're pretty much not making any real case. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 01:51 AM |
My point is that's stupid. With such minor points you're pretty much not making any real case. ------------- How is it minor? If you proclaim equality for all that means everybody, and if you do not support EVERYBODY having this equality than you're contradicting yourself. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 02:08 AM |
| This kind of whatever it really is taken to the extreme is something no one has ever supported. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 02:14 AM |
| I must say, OP is 50% right, look at Martin Luther King Jr, he only argued rights for blacks, and not any other race which was oppressed at that time. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 02:24 AM |
"I must say, OP is 50% right, look at Martin Luther King Jr, he only argued rights for blacks, and not any other race which was oppressed at that time."
That's because back then, you had only whites and blacks living in places like the US, UK and Australia due to whites basically banning anyone besides Europeans from coming over to live in their countries.
You are an idiot who obviously doesn't know much about subjects like this @Ridicule.
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| 19 Dec 2013 02:36 AM |
This kind of whatever it really is taken to the extreme is something no one has ever supported. ----------- So you prove my point for me. It isn't equality for all. It is rights for certain people. Also it is supported by the people who live these life styles, is it not? |
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| 19 Dec 2013 02:44 AM |
"Certain people"
You mean pretty much everyone? You mean everyone, for most of their lives? |
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| 19 Dec 2013 03:11 AM |
You mean pretty much everyone? You mean everyone, for most of their lives? ------------ No. Females in particular have just claimed ra and men can be sent to prision for it. Just up in my school a teacher tried to get the class to write a paper on why G people are better than straight. Not rights for everybody, more rights for certain people. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 03:21 AM |
| That's different from the extreme cases you named before. That's totally wrong, and few would actually agree to that. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 04:23 AM |
"nobody is wanting adults who're interested in children to have theirs become legal."
Because that infringes the children's rights.
"body wants somebody murdering another person to be legal thereby oppressing murders."
Because that infringes someone else's rights to life.
However, things like same gender marriage do not infringe anyone's rights. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 04:24 AM |
"It isn't social equality."
Social equality doesn't mean "everyone gets to do the hell they want". What dictionaries or thesauruses have you been peeking your nose into?
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| 19 Dec 2013 08:51 AM |
"Because that infringes someone else's rights to life."
but ab0rt1on is fine and dandy
not like you're killing a baby or anything |
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| 19 Dec 2013 10:07 AM |
Social equality doesn't mean "everyone gets to do the hell they want". What dictionaries or thesauruses have you been peeking your nose into? ------------ Sure it does, we have to support people of different life styles.
However, things like same gender marriage do not infringe anyone's rights. -------- Sure it does. It infringes on the right of the baker to tell you no and the pastor to tell you the same thing
Because that infringes someone else's rights to life. ----------- It infringes on their rights to act out as they were born.
Because that infringes the children's rights. ------------- See above.
That's different from the extreme cases you named before. That's totally wrong, and few would actually agree to that. ------------------- No it isn't. I am merely suggestion that certain groups in society are gaining more rights because, they belong to a certain group of people.
Taking people who're way out there or taking people who're not considered to be still proves my point.
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| 19 Dec 2013 10:11 AM |
"No it isn't. I am merely suggestion that certain groups in society are gaining more rights because, they belong to a certain group of people."
That's going back to the original point, you didn't really reply to what I said. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 10:26 AM |
@TheGuyWhoJumpsToConclusionsWithoutThinking
''lgbt''
LGBT were illegal, and it doesn't have to be about race, their were white people who supported the civil rights movements.
You are clearly an idiot who jumps to conclusions. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 10:29 AM |
"Nobody wants somebody murdering another person to be legal thereby oppressing murders" Equality =/= no law free for all anarchy kill spree.
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@What flatline's teacher made the class do
First off, is the teacher ...that kind of person...? 2nd: I'm pretty sure you can sue her (or him) for oppressing you by imposing that horrible stuff on you. Although if you live in a highly liberal state they probably won't do anything, just like they let a teen who killed 4 people go free without punishment just because he claimed to have "affluenza."
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@noswad Exactly. They start talking about rights, but then encourage that kind of stuff. The hypocrisy makes me cringe.
- - - - - - @calum "Social equality doesn't mean "everyone gets to do the heck they want". What dictionaries or thesauruses have you been peeking your nose into?" Exactly.
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| 19 Dec 2013 11:03 AM |
That's going back to the original point, you didn't really reply to what I said. ------------ Because, there is nil to. Obviously what I stated in the OP is an extreme case. But there is ample evidence of it not being the case. Even taking away the extreme cases; The Feminist Movement is attempting to give even more rights to women even though they have the same (in The U.S.A.) this isn't a plea for social equality this is a plea for more rights to a selected group of people.
First off, is the teacher ...that kind of person...? -------- I do not know, I am not one to ask people what they do in the room as I do not care that much.
I'm pretty sure you can sue her (or him) for oppressing you by imposing that horrible stuff on you. Although if you live in a highly liberal state they probably won't do anything, just like they let a teen who killed 4 people go free without punishment just because he claimed to have "affluenza." ---------- Which is why it is useless to take her to court.
Exactly. ---------- But lets assume in an extreme case as suggested in the OP that the child agreed to it then what. |
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| 19 Dec 2013 11:09 AM |
"Because, there is nil to. Obviously what I stated in the OP is an extreme case. But there is ample evidence of it not being the case. Even taking away the extreme cases; The Feminist Movement is attempting to give even more rights to women even though they have the same (in The U.S.A.) this isn't a plea for social equality this is a plea for more rights to a selected group of people."
That kind of cases is what my reply was directed to... |
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