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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 05:51 PM
i recently said something really stupid that may or may not get me banned by accident and i want to eradicate it from existence

this is a needed feature
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hawra12345 is not online. hawra12345
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29 Nov 2013 05:55 PM
I support!
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thezwarriorsalt is not online. thezwarriorsalt
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29 Nov 2013 06:00 PM
Would friends allow to edit it or not?


take one, http://www.roblox.com/really-cute-puppy-item?id=137002207
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 06:44 PM
i need this
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BritainsGotTalentA51 is not online. BritainsGotTalentA51
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29 Nov 2013 07:10 PM
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:15 PM
No support. Why? Because if there is an argument going on, and someone said something that was false and caused them to lose the argument, they could edit all their posts to show that they never started the argument.

Example:

Player 1: Robots are better! They have arms that can reach their enemy!

Player 2: T-Rex is better! They have huge teeth!

Player 1: Robots can be upgraded.

Player 2: Well...

Player 1: I win!

Player 2: No you didn't...

Then player 2 edits the posts to...

Player 1: Robots are better! They have arms that can reach their enemy!

Player 2: Robots are cool!

Player 1: Robots can be upgraded.

Player 2: Yeah, they can.

Player 1: I win!

Player 2: What did you win? Idiot.
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 07:18 PM
@purely

by that time it would be obvious to everyone that they lost the argument and their opponent can even type an explanation to it
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:19 PM
@Hilo; What if some people come by later, who never saw the first argument?
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 07:20 PM
@purely

read all of the post before you reply please, "their opponent can even type an explanation to it"
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:28 PM
@hilo; Yeah, because I would believe what a guy I've never met before says about someone else. /sarcasm

I read the whole post, I didn't feel the need to reply.

A simple explanation won't cut it. We need proof. I'm not going to believe something a stranger says to me unless he provides evidence.
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tahi is not online. tahi
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29 Nov 2013 07:29 PM
Support. There should also be a button to remove your own comments or other the comments that other people wrote on your place.
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 07:30 PM
@purely

you made your claim, now prove it

you provided a hypothetical situation and now i want you to prove it, provide an actual example of someone using the edit post feature to make it look like there was no argument

or do you have no proof?
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:49 PM
@Hilo; There is no edit button, but it's an easily abusable scenario. You're asking me to provide proof over something that does not yet exist in Roblox. This leads me to believe that you think I'm right. Tell me, is my scenario possible?

If you answer no, I'll laugh.

Hilo, I am looking at every possible flaw with your suggestion. I do this with all suggestions.

Everyone who posts a suggestion MUST look at the flaws and possible flawed scenarios. Why? This is what Roblox will look for. They will look for anything abusable within the suggestion. If they find the slightest thing, it will not be implemented.
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:50 PM
It's obvious to all of us that you're asking for proof because you can't think of any way to prevent the scenario I suggested. Think about the flaws of your suggestion.

Instead of arguing with me, think of a way to prevent that scenario.
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blackhero9 is not online. blackhero9
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29 Nov 2013 07:52 PM
No Support
You shouldn't have said anything wrong in the first place. You're not learning from your mistakes if you're covering them up.
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 07:52 PM
Asking me for proof over this scenario is like...

Player 1: "How about we add comments for games for this site?"

Player 2: "But people can spam the comments."

Player 1: "GIVE ME PROOF OF SOMEONE SPAMMING THE COMMENTS!" <--- This is you.

Player 2: "But you're still suggesting comments and they don't exist on this site yet..."

Player 1:" AHAHA! NO PROOF!"
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 07:54 PM
@purely

i'm a forum user, i have used a wide variety of forums that touched on politics to roblox spinoff forums. i've gotten in arguments on all of them. i've talked about a womans right to chose, orientations, things about race, the critical points worth addressing in works of fiction, the debt turnover, and you know what? all of them have had the edit and delete post features

out of all those arguments i have ever gotten in, the scenario you have provided has never happened, not once in all my years of using forums and arguing.

yes, the situation you provided is possible, no, it doesn't happen.
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 07:55 PM
also, you're using the burden of proof fallacy and expecting me to disprove your claim (which i just did)
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 08:00 PM
@Hilo; You did not disprove my claim. You can not have been to every forum in the world. Because it is possible, and seeing how large the internet is, there is a very high possibility of such a scenario happening.

And I suppose by your "many years of foruming", you mean 2, maybe 3 years.

You did not provide solid proof.


In the military, they prepare for scenarios that may not happen. None of the soldiers ask, "Sir, can you give me proof that this might happen to us in reality?" because it's a stupid question. If it CAN happen, the possibilities of it happening (with the exception of outstandingly difficult or stupid scenarios) is high.
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 08:06 PM
@purely

i've been forumming for over 4 years from when i first started on gaia online in 2009

provide an example of your hypothetical situation happening, because i know from experience that it simply does not happen

at all

no, i did not provide solid proof, because you cannot prove a negative

i am denying your claim it is your responsibility to prove it, if you do not you are committing the burden of proof fallacy, provide an example of someone editing their posts to make it look like an argument never ensued

if you cannot then you do not have a logical basis for your argument
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 08:09 PM
Your grammar also leads me to believe that your experiences with foruming were on forums with children.

But whatever, Roblox will not implement it simply because of this scenario.

ALSO, Roblox is a kids site. There is not telling what types of things they will do, especially with an edit post button. I will laugh as this idea is never implemented.
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 08:15 PM
And while you were too busy arguing with me, I already thought of a way to prevent that scenario.

But one more thing, there is phrase. "Just in case". This suggestion needs something "just in case" the scenario happens. You may have not seen it before, but it can happen. The fact that it can happen means that it is a flaw. There is no denying that. What if, if, this scenario occurs and this suggestion is implemented. Now that the scenario occurred once, everyone is doing it. Now what? Well?
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HiIoman is not online. HiIoman
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29 Nov 2013 08:19 PM
you have no logical basis for your argument and simply rely on criticizing the manner that i type in, FYI, i type in whatever manner i chose whenever and in whatever way i want

more information for you, i've argued with people twice my age on the political forums and won

i'm sure there are other problems with having an edit feature but none that i can see that will have the costs outweighing the benefits

to me it is plain to see that this is the way to go with forumming
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blackhero9 is not online. blackhero9
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29 Nov 2013 08:20 PM
Guys! Cool it, take the argument to the PM's. We don't want any flames possibly starting.
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PurelyRandom is not online. PurelyRandom
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29 Nov 2013 08:25 PM
First of all, you can't guarantee their age is true.

"I saw a picture of them." Could be fake.

Regardless of whether the costs outweigh the benefits, there are costs. Roblox tries to make sure that the costs are almost completely eradicated from the update.

It is better to have no costs at all, which is why there needs to be a way to avoid such a scenario. Face it. We all want something that has the lowest number of flaws possible. My scenario is one flaw, and there could be many others. Think of a way to remove that flaw.

Flaws are crucial to updates. We want everything to as close to perfect as possible, and every flaw is a step away from that.

Now stop arguing with me over your "experience" because I honestly don't care anymore. What I care about is a way to stop that scenario.

Here's another one. What if someone posts something like "You're stupid." and starts a fight. Then they edit/delete it and say, "I never insulted him!" Now what?

And if you want proof: Facebook. People post insults on there all the time, then they edit/delete them.
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