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Re: Why people should get guns.

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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 05:10 PM
Due to the fact that crime is on the rise, they need to defend themselves, and other people.

Take that CNN, you liberal conservatives. (lolwat)
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SuperMarioIsAwesome is not online. SuperMarioIsAwesome
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29 Nov 2013 05:14 PM
A lot of those crimes involve guns
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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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29 Nov 2013 05:15 PM
Or get a working police force.
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 05:16 PM
@super

Yes, a lot of crimes were stopped by guns. Your point is?

@xc

No, poloticians would have to get off their butts and do something. <.<
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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29 Nov 2013 05:25 PM
what area are you from? in most areas crime is dropping if we look at it on a large scale. defending yourself with guns can be countered by the idea of attacking others with a gun, if people can get guns as well as using them for defence they can use them for aggression. not only this but an attacker is going to be able to fire a concealed weapon faster than someone reliant on self-defence as they will not know they are going to be fired at.

as for a good police force, yes this is necessary to an extent but in the long run it is going to be a very costly solution - the best way is to look at the causes of crime, poverty. if there wasnt so much inequality crime would be much lower.
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 05:33 PM
Concealed weapons make no sense, you're right.

If someone were to decide to attack someone with a gun, there will be more people trying to defend than attack

Thing of this:

If a person were to rob a store,

And if everyone were to have a gun in the store, the person who attacks would KNOW that he'll get shot, and most likely get shot a lot.

And besides, if someone wanted to kill someone, they wouldn't get a gun legally, they'd get it from the black market.

READ ABOVE AGAIN.

If everyone didn't have a gun, one person who HAS a gun becomes the most powerful person on the block, and can commit many crimes without being stopped by the people.

You're really getting news from liberal networks, no offence to liberals.

It's just that they lie. Bottom line.

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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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29 Nov 2013 05:40 PM
Blaming one side of the political spectrum does nothing to strengthen your argument and just makes it seem as if you're trying to make other people look bad by grouping them in with everyone else and insulting that group

I will not reply to your arguments until you drop this "omg liberal argument" or "omg republican argument" business
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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29 Nov 2013 05:43 PM
'And if everyone were to have a gun in the store, the person who attacks would KNOW that he'll get shot, and most likely get shot a lot.'

So he knows he will get shot and therefore he will make sure he takes mercy upon no one and in a pre-emptive strike he will shoot as many people as is possible - killing more than someone who just needs to point a weapon to ensure no one will attack him.

'And besides, if someone wanted to kill someone, they wouldn't get a gun legally, they'd get it from the black market.'

80-90% of Mexico's guns come from America - sorry but the American legal gun market is the origin of the American gun black market, no one bothers to export illegal guns to America when you can just buy one legally. There is no criminal motive.


'If everyone didn't have a gun, one person who HAS a gun becomes the most powerful person on the block, and can commit many crimes without being stopped by the people.'

No because there is a police force to stop people like this. Guns aren't going to prevent the problem of powerful criminals anyway, most criminal ganglords operate with relative ease in America, despite the fact people have guns. They can just hire people to carry out jobs for them, because they can supply these people so easily with guns.


'You're really getting news from liberal networks, no offence to liberals.'

I don't watch 'liberal' news, for starters I am not American. The news I watch doesn't even mention anything to do with guns laws.

'It's just that they lie. Bottom line.'

You just lied about me watching liberal news networks, despite having no knowledge on what I watch, therefore from what I have heard so far I can only assume you are the liar.

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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 05:55 PM
CNN, FOX, I can name some others for starters.

Chicago,USA

strictest gun laws in the country

Murder capital.

Press the giant red X
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 05:56 PM
And by the way

If he killed ONE person in the store,

He'd have a belly full of led, there is no "no mercy"
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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29 Nov 2013 05:58 PM
Moron.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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29 Nov 2013 05:58 PM
I have a good example why people shouldn't get guns!

The tribes in Africa got guns in the colonization age! They accepted it as a gift first but then it turned to a curse! The members of the tribes are abusing the guns if they're getting really angry! Some members use the guns in spear fight matches and they can kill their own tribe members! Guns are destroying their tradition!
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 06:00 PM
@2013

Dude, they've been at war since they ever got basic weapons. Guns are just another tool.

And we're talking about urban lands.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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29 Nov 2013 06:00 PM
SteelCross, did you hear about sub-machine guns? They can kill more than 1 PERSON in 5 seconds!
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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29 Nov 2013 06:02 PM
"Dude, they've been at war since they ever got basic weapons. Guns are just another tool."

I'm talking about the peaceful tribes and read the full text!
Guns aren't tools guns are WEAPONS they're made to kill not to help.
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 06:03 PM
Think of this

They can incapitate more than 5 criminals in under 5 seconds! :O
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 06:04 PM
@2013

It's the people that kill people.

When you have a gun, it's your choice to kill someone.

When you have a sword, it's your choice to kill someone.

If the tribes were peaceful, it's not the gun's fault, it's their fault for firing it.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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29 Nov 2013 06:18 PM
"It's the people that kill people."

Is that a reason why guns shouldn't be banned?
1 unarmed person can't kill a group of people.
1 person armed with a gun is able to kill a group of people!

"If the tribes were peaceful, it's not the gun's fault, it's their fault for firing it"
4 words: No guns = No casualties
It's their fault to own guns and allow them.
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XC6Alt33 is not online. XC6Alt33
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29 Nov 2013 06:19 PM
"It's the people that kill people."

Guns make the process much, much easier.
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padam11 is not online. padam11
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29 Nov 2013 06:35 PM
Treyvon martin much?
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padam11 is not online. padam11
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29 Nov 2013 06:36 PM
Trayvon*
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 08:02 PM
If you banned guns, people who wanted to do harm could still get them illegaly.

However, if you promoted guns, people could defend themselves.

Even if guns didn't exist, people would require swords and such.

Heck, removing all weapons, people use their bare hands.

2013, please reconsider your position on guns.

Like I said before:

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=119048626
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streetstalker3 is not online. streetstalker3
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29 Nov 2013 08:04 PM
This could end in two ways

Crime utter disappears
or we just kill everyone
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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29 Nov 2013 08:06 PM
@street

People don't realize one fact

CNN = Bad

They try to make gunowners look bad, and, gunowners have morals. Remember, just because you own a pistol, doesn't mean you want to murder.

You could either

A = Defend yourself

B = Hunt (its life bro)

C = Shooting range
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ghostleader13 is not online. ghostleader13
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29 Nov 2013 08:08 PM
I want to hunt with a British L1A1 in 7.62x51 NATO from a 20 round STANGA box mag
Considering the UK used it in many wars I am not allowed to own it qq
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