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Re: WIJvUAF Indepth analysis of raids [RAIDCOUNT]

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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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28 Nov 2013 11:40 AM
WIJvUAF

We have decided to be completely transparent and present all records and wins from the war. There is a lot of data to churn through below but if you are currently under any doubt we are the victors of the WIJ-UAF war then it is highly worth your time.

WIJ WINS:
==Claimed Invalid by UAF due to being dated the 16th of November. [5]
ArqQfqy - 873745
0uU9CRK - 137151
qfNTFfI - 892758
ThgYfzT - 802027
L5HG9MS 855404
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UAF argue that UAF did not accept war till the 17th of November and hence these wins are not valid. Imgur only dates one of these images to the 16th, and the rest to the 17th. Although WIJ argue that UAF's late response should not lead to invalidating WIJ wins, there is another factor to consider. Image number #1 on the UAF win album is dated, via Timecode, to the 16th of Novemeber. UAF are perfectly happy to incorrectly declare WIJ wins on the 16th as invalid (whilst not being able to prove this), even whilst presenting their own wins from the 16th. Due to WIJ asserting war began on 16th and furthermore UAF being unable to prove that any but one of these raids didn't occur on the 17th, WIJ is declaring all of these wins as valid.
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==Claimed Invalid by UAF on the basis of them containing five digit wincodes [6]
vvknQSK - 92350 - jamiethedevil - 17/11/13 RECORDS: (tJEmlS5) (taken from jamie's career on mainframe)
IwwYg5z - 40773 - cashpop - 18/11/13 RECORDS: (cO9cbR5) (taken from cash's career on mainframe)
Uz3gG5z - 60183 - meteo02/block01352 - 18/11/13 RECORDS: (dtbc1dh) (taken from block's career on mainframe)
p6Clqet - 52492 - yodapal/Added by StevenIV - 17/11/13 RECORDS (KnR7zbr) (taken from steven's career on mainframe)
Aath7gT - 20845 - L1611 - 18/11/13? NO RECORDS FOUND :( Lazy Lucario!
MMF6jml - 52553 - Gunsteel 18/11/13? WIJ BUREAUCRACY FAILS AGAIN :(
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UAF claim that any win with five digit codes is invalid due to it preceding the war. False claimed that the terminal was updated before the war to reflect this. Not only is this incompatible with UAF's previous claims that raids on the 16th were invalid as they issued six digit codes, False has a reputation of being unable to control updates to his fort, leading to his dismissal of one of his scripters. Requests by Owen for False to record him accessing the script on various versions of the fort to prove that this is indeed the case, were met with refusal. WIJ timestamped records maintaining that these victories were gained during the war are shown.
After a victory, data is immediately entered into the mainframe by the officer in charge, the officer in charge for each of these servers is shown on the right. Next to that is a screenshot of the dated entry on the mainframe for the win.
That's about as conclusive as things get. WIJ considers all these wins valid. Although two don't have corresponding records the previous records prove that five digit codes were issued during the war and hence all of these wins are valid.
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==WIJ Victories not disputed by UAF [43]
TBSkmh1 - 978302
mWcpEof - 317088
P3l5Gwl - 806147
RxskttC - 206611
2PBNXBP - 630482
0C8WTCY - 898069
rgKmHhe - 264840
8QNs1Au - 202247
JX2LCZN - 566516
lBbhsLT - 439253
FyzpV45 - 740227
mi9L42w -802027
TKiuVt1 - 491715
JPPMk66 - 822352
HSUtkI4 - 296366
fgh4HdZ - 272012
3BOd6dc - 742699
ORrAoM0 - 475265
9wRDmgG - NO CODE, TERMINAL FROZE (ShatteredRealities120 approved win)
TKnoWtD 170629
p4eaiSD - 234139
krK7uaQ - 305765
BmMhVcM - 158819
JwdrdG1 334209
bc6ZS0T - 143743
03i0xPl - 492661
CUFfAu9 - 253426
=This is about where UAF broke their terminal
wZTbcBk - M11D21Y2013H18M25S25C191U0R0X0TE0
Vc7qaEZ - No code, seems as though they removed it.
UlyyWjj - No code, seems as though they removed it.
HCGRIuP. - No code, but the HRs acknowledge that we won.
LVpT0Cp - No code, once again.
iqVxttX - No code, again
lsBE2dD - No code again
kyiI4a3 - No code, false said it was official though.
tae8YI9 - m11d23y2013h20m26s30c980808U5R10X1TE2000
PEhWx7L - No code, :m states that we won
2Es9GwD - No code, :m states that we won
CMDnJlf - No code, ProAvenger acknowledges it is official.
tfqeVnf - No code
xyLH3mC - No code
Aix1G1i - M11D24Y2013H21M16S46C875U5R10TE1652
0KyxwBi - UAF froze timer at the last 16 seconds
==

UAF WINS
Found in album a/LwyQe [39 entries]
==Wins disputed as invalid by WIJ [7]
#1 - Timecode dates it at Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:44:27 GMT, didn't UAF claim wins from the 16th were invalid?
#19 - Code is obscured and largely unreasonable, UAF claim an adequate portion of it is readable. WIJ refuse to accept codes in this condition
#9 - Duplicate of #12, accepted by UAF
#21 - Duplicate of #28 accepted by UAF
#22 - RAA raid, UAF claim UAF members are 'present and fighting', raider team is 60% non UAF.
#32 - Crimson raid, UAF claim that UAF members are 'present and fighting', no UAF are on the raiders team.
#34 - UAF spy is on WIJ team, likely to boost the numbers making their server official. Maybe also to open the gate for them. Spies name is Emorphis (now UAF) and can be seen celebrating in chat. Very disappointing.
==Wins accepted by WIJ [32]
#2-8 #9-18 #20 #23-31 #33

FINAL RAIDCOUNT 53[WIJ] - 32[UAF]

I think that's pretty conclusive, any questions? We await UAF's declaration of defeat.
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Voile is not online. Voile
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28 Nov 2013 11:40 AM
owned
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28 Nov 2013 11:40 AM
2nd
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JuHDude is not online. JuHDude
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28 Nov 2013 11:42 AM
that's quite a lot of conclusive evidence
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StevenIV is not online. StevenIV
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28 Nov 2013 11:42 AM
case closed
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shadowknight6669 is not online. shadowknight6669
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28 Nov 2013 11:43 AM
wij > all
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28 Nov 2013 11:43 AM
gg
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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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28 Nov 2013 11:43 AM
I'll leave the declarations of Victory to the Chairman.
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28 Nov 2013 11:44 AM
Victory for WIJ AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA

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Statfire is online. Statfire
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28 Nov 2013 11:44 AM
owen won

too much proof
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formulation is not online. formulation
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28 Nov 2013 11:44 AM
gg

just a game, gj
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28 Nov 2013 11:45 AM
Huzzah.
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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28 Nov 2013 11:45 AM
"nobody got to 100
it's a draw" -UAF
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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28 Nov 2013 11:46 AM
all we're gonna get is declaration of draw.
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GG
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28 Nov 2013 11:47 AM
Hail WIJ and that is alot.
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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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28 Nov 2013 11:47 AM
That took ages, somebody should promote me to Marshal or something.
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28 Nov 2013 11:48 AM
HEIL WIJ
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28 Nov 2013 11:48 AM
WIJ wrecks shop.
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Z007 is not online. Z007
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28 Nov 2013 11:50 AM
owen
i dub thee
wonderful marshal of the wij corporation
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28 Nov 2013 11:51 AM
"duh duh 14 of your wins dont count"
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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28 Nov 2013 11:52 AM
UAF declines to acknowledge your post, as it is quite biased to say the least.

WIJ presented 50 wins to UAF, 14 of which were contested as being before the war. Wins 1-8 are from the pre-war invasion, plus those 6 wins containing the 5-digit code (used prior to the war). This brings the WIJian total down to 36.

UAF presented 39 wins, 3 of which were dupes. UAF will acknowledge the one raid from the 16th, but insists that this means UAF has 35 wins.

UAF win 19 was clear enough to determine the clear nature of the win. I even typed down the raid number based on what could be read while we were discussing the terms.
UAF win 22 shall remain official due to the UAF efforts involved. Given the amount of random raiders WIJ receives, a server with 70%+ UAF soldiers is difficult to achieve.
UAF win 32 exists under the same terms as 22.
UAF win 34 is legitimate, as Emorphis was a WIJian member. UAF will not accept the blame for a lack of WIJian discipline during the war.

The issue concerning your database is that it could be updated after-the-fact. The fact we did not use the 5-digit terminal during the war and the possibility of the raid-wins being added after-the-fact cause us to contest those wins.

This makes the final score 36-35, WIJ. UAF will continue to assert that the war has ended in a draw, and reminds you of how the WIJians ended the war.

You should also consult the individual who initiated the war (Lucario), who negotiated war terms ending at 100 wins unless one side should reach that limit in a week. If one side reached 100 limits within a week, the goal would be extended to 150. This I have negotiated with Lucario.

Chatlogs:
[20:15] [UAFCOM]FalseWarrior000: FC, TRA, and TGI have all requested we end this war now. They saw this discussion and were...interested, to say the least.
[20:15] Owen: Why should that bother me?
[20:15] Owen: The war is over
[20:15] Owen: we already banned you from our fort and removed you from our enemy list
[20:16] Owen: I'm unwilling to accept the word of lying developers and racist high ranks over my own records





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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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28 Nov 2013 11:53 AM
I don't think false actually read anything.
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28 Nov 2013 11:53 AM
Another case solved by Professor Owen
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