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| 28 Nov 2013 12:00 PM |
This is a response to the following thead: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=118913894
WIJ presented 50 wins to UAF, 14 of which were contested as being before the war. Wins 1-8 are from the pre-war invasion, plus those 6 wins containing the 5-digit code (used prior to the war). This brings the WIJian total down to 36.
UAF presented 39 wins, 3 of which were dupes. UAF will acknowledge the one raid from the 16th, but insists that this means UAF has 35 wins.
UAF win 19 was clear enough to determine the clear nature of the win. I even typed down the raid number based on what could be read while we were discussing the terms. UAF win 22 shall remain official due to the UAF efforts involved. Given the amount of random raiders WIJ receives, a server with 70%+ UAF soldiers is difficult to achieve. UAF win 32 exists under the same terms as 22. UAF win 34 is legitimate, as Emorphis was a WIJian member. UAF will not accept the blame for a lack of WIJian discipline during the war.
The issue concerning your database is that it could be updated after-the-fact. The fact we did not use the 5-digit terminal during the war and the possibility of the raid-wins being added after-the-fact cause us to contest those wins.
This makes the final score 36-35, WIJ. UAF will continue to assert that the war has ended in a draw, and reminds you of how the WIJians ended the war.
You should also consult the individual who initiated the war (Lucario), who negotiated war terms ending at 100 wins unless one side should reach that limit in a week. If one side reached 100 limits within a week, the goal would be extended to 150. This I have negotiated with Lucario.
Chatlogs: [20:15] [UAFCOM]FalseWarrior000: FC, TRA, and TGI have all requested we end this war now. They saw this discussion and were...interested, to say the least. [20:15] Owen: Why should that bother me? [20:15] Owen: The war is over [20:15] Owen: we already banned you from our fort and removed you from our enemy list [20:16] Owen: I'm unwilling to accept the word of lying developers and racist high ranks over my own records
WIJ group banned the Urban Assault Forces and refused to unban us until we ended the war, called us cowards and refused to cooperate when UAF sought to fix issues with our fort. The WIJian High Command has, on multiple occasions, violated the terms of a "friendly war".
So Owen, we will continue to call this war a draw. I do not expect you to change, as you have ignored (not refuted, ignored) every argument I have made to you in public and private.
Once again, good fight to the WIJian LRs and UAF LRs. You all made this war a fun one, and I ask you to distance yourselves from Owen's attempts at vengeance. You fought well, so enjoy yourselves.
Given the conduct exhibited by the chatlogs, which have been the gist of all communications with the WIJian High Command during the war, I am cutting off diplomatic relations with the WIJian High Command.
Thank you, and enjoy your Thanksgivings. |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:00 PM |
tl;dr version
"no you're wrong!" |
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Voile
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:01 PM |
tl;dr version
"nah blah blah blah blah i cant hear anything" |
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owen0202
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:01 PM |
I still don't think False read the thread.
Or maybe he can't add, see, or misunderstands how a raid with no UAF members present is probably not a UAF victory. |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:02 PM |
I will admit that UAF originally approached negotiations believing we had lost, and were ready to admit that. The haughty attitude of the WIJian High Command inspired us to demand a continuation of the war, which Silentsword and Owen refused.
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Chaarusu
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:02 PM |
Actual tl;dr Its a draw now deal with it |
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owen0202
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zac4545
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:04 PM |
false is autistic and so is uaf
wij won |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:05 PM |
standing
i don't think you understand how this works
if you use the wrong "you're"
all arguments presented in a post are invalid |
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Voile
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Chaarusu
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:05 PM |
"false get a life" Brb lolin |
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zac4545
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:05 PM |
| if UAF does not admit defeat RAA is going to ban UAF too |
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Mikalios
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:06 PM |
Owen - did you not read the part where we ADMITTED WIJ got more raid wins? That doesn't warrant a victory anyway - according to the war terms, one side needed 100 wins. Neither of us came close to that. You decided to cut the war short.
[UAFGEN] Mikalios |
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fryber11
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:08 PM |
WIJ was fine with a tie, UAF's fine with a tie.
Does the war score matter as much? |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:08 PM |
Owen, shoo.
[20:10] Owen: Because if you agree with them [20:10] Owen: you loose [20:10] Owen: and obviously you dont want to loose [20:10] Owen: furthermore I see your still harbouring a racist [20:11] Owen: Shattered: lol that racist joke was a joke 0:25 Shattered: what a good joke [20:11] [UAFCOM]FalseWarrior000: Too many discrepencies which should have been sorted out earlier, a fault of both our high commands. [20:11] Owen: so I honestly have no interest in dealing with you guys anymore [20:11] Owen: That guy has not been dealt with [20:11] [UAFCOM]FalseWarrior000: The joke was investigated and found to lack malicious intent. [20:11] Owen: tough [20:11] Owen: it was racist and disgusting [20:11] Owen: Who cares about intent
SPACE [20:15] [UAFCOM]FalseWarrior000: FC, TRA, and TGI have all requested we end this war now. They saw this discussion and were...interested, to say the least. [20:15] Owen: Why should that bother me? [20:15] Owen: The war is over [20:15] Owen: we already banned you from our fort and removed you from our enemy list [20:16] Owen: I'm unwilling to accept the word of lying developers and racist high ranks over my own records
This is how you conducted yourself when we were supposed to have a logical discussion. You flamed and flamed, despite both of our acknowledgements that the war should end. We both agreed that the terms should have been published.
I have told you the terms Lucario and I set. WIJ has not reached them and withdrawn, as well as group banned UAF. We will not be changing our declaration of a draw.
Lesser clans would have declared autowin due to the WIJian's conduct as of late. We cannot raid your base, nor will you speak plainly with us. However, I have decided on a draw to salute the efforts made by WIJian LRs throughout the war, all of whom deserve more than a UAF autowin.
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Voile
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:09 PM |
@false
whatever you say
doesn't change the fact that wij remains victorious
53[WIJ] - 32[UAF] |
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cashpop
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Mikalios
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:12 PM |
Oh really? Owen, I invite you to step up and confirm the validity of these chatlogs.
[UAFGEN] Mikalios |
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zac4545
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:13 PM |
dude false you lost stop acting like youre all that
freaking scumbag |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:13 PM |
"dude false you lost stop acting like youre all that"
ingenious argument
♜ Police Bells and Church Sirens ♜ |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:13 PM |
| I think a group ban somewhat changes the parameters needed to call a "win". |
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| 28 Nov 2013 12:14 PM |
Not our fault UAF didn't "accept" the war when it was declared.
Re-add those 14 WIJ wins, and that one UAF win.
Now what does the score say?! |
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