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Re: FEAR, We need to have a little chat...

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slasher3499 is not online. slasher3499
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24 Nov 2013 07:30 PM
Hey guys. Been a long time since I've done one of these, Eh? Kind of because, well, School's back, so HCOM's, and the rest of FEAR's activity, is a bit lower. That and there haven't been many upcoming topics that I feel the low ranks have to be aware of. But in the past couple of days, that has changed.

We all remember BrianK. He left right around a month ago, and with him leaving, JasonIIII took his position as Second in Command. We're all aware of this, so I'm not gonna go much deeper on any kind of "Backstory". Just know that those are vital points in this forum. FEAR's on the down-low, and Jason's the 2iC.

Well, some of you may be aware of a FEAR "Division" known as VoV, or Veterans of Venezia. This group was created by Zach2222 as a way of gathering up all the old FEAR troops from 2010 to 2012, whether or not they left FEAR, doesn't matter. They were invited into the division, and a lot of them joined. But, with all these Vets in one place, came a problem. Apparently BrianK thinks that FEAR is in ruins, and it needs to be fixed. Lets not mention the fact that FEAR was like this BEFORE he left, so he has no room to talk, leaving in FEAR's time of need.

So what did Brian do? He created a rebellion group, esentially. Though HCOM can't really call it a rebellion, it's intentions stand as one. Brian wants to fix FEAR through, lets say, "Forceful methods". This group is referred to as "The New Venezian Union". Ring any bells? Esentially the same thing that happened to RAT. CT comes back, sees CJ doing a crap job, and tries to start a rebellion to get himself back into power, to fix RAT.

But in case you haven't noticed, CT kinda failed. CJ and RAT esentially ignored him, didn't care about the HRs they lost, and moved on with their day. The FEAR HCOM, however, didn't want this to happen, and planned to talk peacefully against the "rebels" (Thats to vague to say), before they became extremeist. But apparently, Brian ain't got no time for dat, and hes already planning on somehow overthrowing JasonIIII.

This is where the problem arises, FEAR. BrianK left FEAR in it's time of need, and is coming back roughly a month later, accusing the HCOM and Chain of Command of being the ones who caused all of this. Is this somewhat true? Yes. But as I've stated, what, 3 times now? Brian left while this all was already happening, so hes to blame just as much as the rest of us are.

But, this forum is not about the rebellion. This is not a warning that the rebellion exists. If the rebellion was a threat, then we'd be warning you. But that hasn't happened, at least not yet. But one thing that is a threat, right now, is ideas. Brian's ideas are very extreme, seemingly unwilling to talk to the HCOM to see if they can agree upon something. Hes jumping straight to overthrowing HRs, and such. We allow our Low ranks to speak their minds. That is the message of every single one of these forums that I write. You are allowed to voice your opinion in a respectful way, and tell the HCOM what they may be doing wrong, from your perspective. But you are however, not allowed to start planning on getting High ranks out of office and steal bases to use as your own.

As I said, this is not about the rebellion itself, but how you may react to it. Leave the fate of the rebellion to the HCOM. I want to make it clear, you can support SOME of it's ideas, because the HCOM believes some of them are actually rational. But you are not to downright support the extreme choices of BrianK and his supporters. They are completely unreasonable, and are not tolerated. The HCOM believes Brian's intentions are somewhat pure, but he is reacting to the situation in all the wrong ways. Some members of the HCOM can already punch holes straight through his plans, and it's not looking good for BrianK already.

The reason Brian left was because of College. He was unable to keep up with his work, and manage FEAR at the same time, so he finally gave in and retired. But can anyone explain why he suddenly has tons of time to go agasint the HCOM and "Fix FEAR"? Well, I can, in 1 word, even. Thanksgiving. Hes on a break, you see. Has a week of, we'd think. But what happens as soon as the holidays have passed and he has to go back to work? Hes gonna leave, again, and his cause will be lost. Of course I doubt Brian will admit that, but its a logical explination for the current turn of events. You can't Argue with that.

But now Im rambling. I'll just make this simple on you guys.

Low ranks: Don't follow Brian's lead. You may believe in his ideas, because that's perfectly reasonable. Think Jason's a bad 2iC? Okay, that's your opinion. But do not do anything drastic about it. Don't join Brian's rebellion, don't go against the HRs, and generally don't do anything rash. Be respectful, and you will be listened to.

Brian's supporters: You guys are (Mostly) Veterans. You are much better than this. You're ALL aware that rebellions within FEAR have always been shot out of the sky, and left to crash and burn. Sometimes, they're even laughed at, afterwards. We don't want this to happen. We see what you're intentions are, but you MUST take a different path, if you wish to refrain the HCOM from becoming Hostile towards you. Or, to be completely honest, More hostile, because we already a bit are. Brian's mind is clouded, but from what I see, hes the only one. You guys want to change FEAR for the better. If that's truly the case, then work for that to happen. Don't try and break FEAR down and recreate it in your own image from the outside.

And that's all there is to say... I really need to come up with something catchy to end all these off with...

tl;dr: Brian's been a bad boy and you shouldn't listen to him.
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raghav7 is not online. raghav7
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24 Nov 2013 07:32 PM
Yes.
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lilprivera is not online. lilprivera
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24 Nov 2013 07:36 PM
Hmmm
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TempusDominion is online. TempusDominion
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24 Nov 2013 07:36 PM
Honestly...
I don't understand why Brian is trying to overthrow Jason...I feel that is a fruitless and well un-needed attempt.

However,
You have to agree that FEAR is in a somewhat downward spiral, and I have to agree rebellions are NOT the best way to go... Although, I was hoping this NVU would be more of a peaceful protest and non-aggressive negotiations.

I still believe that should be the purpose.

-DR
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DesiredMost is not online. DesiredMost
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24 Nov 2013 07:36 PM
fears a clan?
since when

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tigerman14 is not online. tigerman14
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24 Nov 2013 07:37 PM
k.
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slasher3499 is not online. slasher3499
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24 Nov 2013 07:37 PM
@Temp, As I said, I agree that some of the "Rebellion's" ideas are righteous, but they're going about it the wrong way.
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Doop99 is not online. Doop99
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
Mhm.
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slasher3499 is not online. slasher3499
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
@Des, Since 2010.
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strongyoshimaster is not online. strongyoshimaster
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
Agreed, and his little reunion will fall, Brian needs to focus on College, not little kids.
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Wizard2268 is not online. Wizard2268
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
Well said.

"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it."
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DesiredMost is not online. DesiredMost
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
What's BrianK's new account?

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CapColton is not online. CapColton
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24 Nov 2013 07:38 PM
"What's BrianK's new account"

His account is SAME. But changed username.
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TempusDominion is online. TempusDominion
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24 Nov 2013 07:40 PM
Exactly.
The matter at hand is SONIC is like the nicest guy in this game...although it's impossible to contact him, which isn't his full fault (other than the fact he doesn't get on much). Overthrowing high ranks is moronic, but making a statement and a point does in fact do something.
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slasher3499 is not online. slasher3499
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24 Nov 2013 07:40 PM
EmperorAsianK, or something like that.
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strongyoshimaster is not online. strongyoshimaster
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24 Nov 2013 07:41 PM
@Tempus: Yes, it is currently difficult to contact SONIC, his laptop is broken, he plans on getting a new one soon.
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strongyoshimaster is not online. strongyoshimaster
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24 Nov 2013 07:42 PM
@Slasher: You got it correct, that's his name now.
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TempusDominion is online. TempusDominion
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24 Nov 2013 07:43 PM
But even when he has a working laptop it's still extremly difficult to contact him.

Also, the only people he really ever talks to is the high command...and right now the high command is completely flawed. I can assure you that there are low ranks who have genius ideas to improve the falling system...but they are worried to tell high ranks their ideas because it's pretty obvious the HRs will take credit for it. Low ranks deserve recognition.
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qwerty100027 is not online. qwerty100027
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24 Nov 2013 07:44 PM
TL; -

I'm not going to go rebel. I'm just watching the drama.
Also, I can express opinions freely in that group.

Also. A word that came up most often. HCOM. Since when is another name for
FEAR, 'HCOM'? Hm...?

If BrianK wants he can go to --- trying to overthrow.

Also "steal bases", That newer version of the base was made by DoctorCooper who HCOM happened to kick out.

Slasher. May I ask what you're currently doing as HR that's so good for FEAR?

Slasher. Whatever happened to "removing the favoritism and corruption" speech you
gave after your beloved apprentice left?

[This is an honest question]

Slasher, you've changed. I wonder if you realize it. Or what I viewed you as was a lie.

Bah; I forgot what else I was going to say.

Bai. c=

"It's all a matter of perspective"
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devinzeth is not online. devinzeth
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24 Nov 2013 07:44 PM
I've known BK a long time.
He is doing this as an act against FEAR.
That is what he wants us to think, but no.
He is doing this, to show us our faults, so we can fix them.
Just as well to keep us active, and keep us going.
He is more so doing this to keep us aware, and for fun, to keep us strong.

He is trying to benefit FEAR, while making us think otherwise.
I could be wrong.

But based on how I know him. logically this makes sense.

~Abe Lincoln~
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strongyoshimaster is not online. strongyoshimaster
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24 Nov 2013 07:45 PM
@Tempus: There was a Low Rank meeting a few hours ago, read the other forum on the shout.
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TempusDominion is online. TempusDominion
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24 Nov 2013 07:47 PM
I know
I started low rank meetings >.>.
But what I'm saying is that none of it is going to be put in effect without SONIC.
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slasher3499 is not online. slasher3499
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24 Nov 2013 07:48 PM
@qwerty,

Well, I'm gonna be completely honest and say "Not much".

But then I'm gonna instantly say right after; "But that's the same for most HRs".
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LordNobody is not online. LordNobody
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24 Nov 2013 07:49 PM
I don't know what Brian's motives are.

I don't think anyone fundamentally disagrees with his overall message - FEAR has problems - they exist. We should attempt to fix them as much as we are able.

However, I disagree with a lot of other things that have been said by this new group. A part of the message is good, a part of it is bad in my eyes.
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Retalliation is not online. Retalliation
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24 Nov 2013 07:52 PM
Interesting.
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