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Re: How the Universe started

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GorashKuvok is not online. GorashKuvok
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17 Nov 2013 07:40 PM
Right, i am religious to an Extent, i follow Inuit beliefs of respecting the souls of animals and all living things but i still see some factors of science true, for instance, i saw someone say god created the Universe

Here are reasons why thats false

-There is scientific evidence that supports the Big bang theory
-How can you create the Universe, if the universe wasn't there you couldn't exist (Just like, You can't walk when your not born, because you haven't been born therefore its impossible to walk)

God couldn't just appear, everyone is created by something.
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MassRelays is not online. MassRelays
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17 Nov 2013 09:02 PM
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large implosions spreads the material of the universe

bunch of planetary science

planets condense and suns r born

earth formed

single cell organisms formed on earth

evolution

human
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MassRelays is not online. MassRelays
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17 Nov 2013 09:04 PM
and yes nothing can be created from nothing

people that argue that it must be god that started the universe from stratch are hyporcrites

what created their gods from nothing???????
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buddy249950 is not online. buddy249950
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17 Nov 2013 09:09 PM
@Mass If you went to school and learned that the Greek gods existed and always had existed you would understand. Go get an education before arguing something you have no say in.
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MassRelays is not online. MassRelays
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17 Nov 2013 09:16 PM
how have the greek gods always existed if they were made up by humans and humans originated trillions of years after the start of the universe
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Doodlebug107 is not online. Doodlebug107
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17 Nov 2013 09:38 PM
Can't we all just live with the idea that the universe is here now, and I'm sure the real answer would probably be so confusing it would kill your brain.
e.e
TARDIS BRO
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ventus48539 is not online. ventus48539
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17 Nov 2013 09:45 PM
hmm it is unknown yeah.
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anothersinii is not online. anothersinii
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17 Nov 2013 10:08 PM
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 10:39 PM
Hey there! Just here to offer a point. Have you fellows ever considered that an Outside Force (God) created the universe without the need to abide by nature? Thanks!
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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17 Nov 2013 10:43 PM
Theists don't believe god just "appeared", they believe it is eternal, or infinite; it does not need to be created or in a previous state of being.
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17 Nov 2013 10:48 PM
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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17 Nov 2013 10:51 PM
because we have observed movement in the universe that indicates it came from one spot, implying the big bang theory, which is A: statistically impossible or B: implies that there are more than one universe. I honestly don't believe in random universes everywhere, because that would imply design or reason behind it.
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 10:51 PM
I'm sorry, what? You used too many pronouns for me to understand what you said. Can you rephrase that with more proper nouns please?
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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17 Nov 2013 10:56 PM
I thought your last post was for me
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 11:01 PM
While I believe objects can exist eternally without creation, this is a very limited view. It applies mainly to God. I find it very hard to belive that universes can willingly create themselves, because if that is true, than other things could willingly create themselves randomly. (It'd be a little strange if a water bottle suddenly decided to become two watter bottles, wouldn't it?)
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17 Nov 2013 11:06 PM
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 11:12 PM
...What?

I think if universes could be randomly created, or not randomly created, they have a 50-50 chance of being created. Thus, eventually, due to the laws of probability, there would be multiple universes, no?
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17 Nov 2013 11:17 PM
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 11:22 PM
Well, if you're going to accept that universes can randomly spawn, you automatically agree that water bottles can randomly spawn, yes?
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17 Nov 2013 11:28 PM
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 11:32 PM
You...Aren't supplying any reason why you believe the way you do... You're just spewing garbage...

What are you talking about? What is this magical "QM?"
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17 Nov 2013 11:37 PM
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Zkiller11 is not online. Zkiller11
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17 Nov 2013 11:43 PM
If it doesn't make any sense at all why bother listing it as your magical reason for everything/
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MassRelays is not online. MassRelays
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18 Nov 2013 06:29 AM
tell me why the greek gods, roman gods, egyptian gods, etc. are not real??
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