Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 07:58 AM |
Why not just make an account that each leader of the group can enter?
All raid wins would be sent to that, would also be easier to check duplicates.
Pretty simple, just update the accounts profile each time you've counted a win towards your warscore, the links would always be checkable for the enemy.
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Nhelp
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| 18 Nov 2013 07:59 AM |
| A new account would be too much. Maybe the leaders should just update the group description. |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:01 AM |
But then they wouldn't be able to check eachother's raid wins, and look for dup's?
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:22 AM |
| Someone is bound to just take the account. |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:24 AM |
@Historical,
should that happen, the other clan may claim an autowin.
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iBlaming
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:27 AM |
| If you claim an auto win, what's the point in even having the war. |
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6flyguy6
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:29 AM |
because one of the leader's egos would make them have to either somehow steal the account, or mess it up completely
you're implying both leaders are going to be mature and not total idiots
oh wait you may be meaning larger, better groups not small little scum bag groups. |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:31 AM |
To have fun?
You know, if the other clan does that, then they've pretty much forfeited.
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6flyguy6
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:34 AM |
yeah
but trust me i never trust my enemies with anything
because i know they;d take the chance and im like
just trying to make a war fun and clean for us all bro |
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:39 AM |
@6fly
Stop being like me, lol. |
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| 18 Nov 2013 08:51 AM |
OR OR hear me out.
Raid system that generates random code.
When raiders when a new code is generated.
Raiders give that code to their leader.
Leader stores the screenshot with the code someplace safe.
adds 1+ to their win.
When proof is needed they show screenshot. |
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:08 AM |
Good idea but people can always trick other leaders for raid wins.
- Siggy has been shutdown by VAK - |
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:13 AM |
Why do raid wins in the first place?
It's an inefficient and overused system for wars, not to mention abused by people screaming "autowin111" at every other raid. |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:14 AM |
@Hero,
you suggest endurance? *Points over at TGI and VAK*
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Cryptios
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:14 AM |
| Some people do this, but I like the idea. |
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:26 AM |
"you suggest endurance? *Points over at TGI and VAK*"
@San
TGI and VAK's endurance war is only terrible because both clans are bull-headed and refuse to cooperate in the slightest. Pride is a dangerous thing to sport.
That's not what I meant, in any case. I meant, you know, COOPERATIVE, roleplay-based wars. Raids still exist, but they don't do anything but let your soldiers do stuff. The actual battles that decide the war are based on skill and skill alone in large-scale battles both leaders built cooperatively.
With the amount of skilled builders on roblox at this point, and in the clan world, building a warzone for both clans to build in is a piece of cake.
You see back in my day, this is what we did, and every single war was a hundred times more fun than this. Battles were dynamic and fluid, and whole campaigns could happen over the course of a week. Fleets met over a planet, and if yours won the initial engagement you got to go down to the surface and begin the invasion.
It was a simple system to go back to, and even though we were all younger back then, we didn't abuse it. That was because we knew that if we broke off and started yelling "THEY CHEATED/WERE UNFAIR, AUTOWIN!!!" then the whole war would be off. Wars were fun, and we didn't want that.
The raid-count system turns fluid wars into a daily grind. You punch numbers in and the one with the highest number wins. It /incentives/ foul play and the dishonorable tactic of server-filling, because people hold extreme faith in the raid-win counter, so how could it possibly be wrong? Every raid must be a win!
Forts and raid-counts are fundamentally broken. They're the root of what roblox clan warfare has unfortunately become, and yet people continually strive toward it as if it were law. Nobody has standardized the raid system. People just use it because "everyone else does". |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:30 AM |
I didn't read all you said, just like, 2-3 of the first paragraphs,
from that, I can say, that it'll ruin the meaning of raiding, if the raid wins doesn't count towards anything.
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cashpop
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:36 AM |
@Hero
"back in my day!"
right
so anyway, what you just stated is pretty much a nostalgic trip back to when you had fun
you didn't explain why raids are bad or anything
stop going off topic and then sugar coating everything you say with "grammar" and such.
you got the goods, but not in the right place, Hero |
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cashpop
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:43 AM |
@cash
I see you're back to troll at me again. I'll indulge you just this once.
"right"
Sorry? Is that too much for you? I realize that most people AREN'T veterans of the very first era of clans, and it's often you see some idiotic 2011er saying that "x101st wus da first war clan111" but you can't seriously be doubting me on this one.
"so anyway, what you just stated is pretty much a nostalgic trip back to when you had fun"
No? Yes? Nostalgia isn't the same thing as what I think you're implying. I am giving valid reasons for why the current system of raiding is both inefficient, abused, and not-
"you didn't explain why raids are bad or anything"
Okay, so you definitely didn't read what I posted, then. Good to-
"stop going off topic and then sugar coating everything you say with "grammar" and such."
Wait, what? Are you seriously suggesting that suggesting a new system of war on a topic about war systems is off-topic? Are you ACTUALLY saying that using grammar is "sugar-coating" something? Gee, I'm sorry that I choose to use grammar and that it offends you, cashpop.
is dis better?
If you're not going to provide any base for your argument, cash, then don't expect a rebuttal.
Go ahead and call me autistic again or something. I'm out. |
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Sancuu
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:44 AM |
@Hero,
do you know what's funny about veterans? They work as milk; they expire, and get sour.
You're one of many examples.
Sit down.
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cashpop
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:47 AM |
| I guess he forgot to read "raid counts" |
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cashpop
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| 18 Nov 2013 09:50 AM |
also Hero, I don't remember any groups that ever had one of those "fleets over planets" in their bases
you'd figure it would be very popular seeing how awesome it sounded as you typed it.
but apparently you won't back it up with any examples at all and instead of actually trying to argue back with your side, you just throw a tantrum at me, then ragequit.
whats the matter, Hero?
Can't take any criticism? No matter how bad it was? |
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