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Re: There are very few good leaders around.

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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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15 Nov 2013 02:25 PM
It's all about followers now.

Power-clans are founded off followers. If you're popular, then you're going to lead a successful clan. It's all about popularity unlike some older clans that were actually built by the leader's skill at leading.

So many clans are 'bandwagon' clans that take no skill by the leader to make it good.
Examples include:
Tza
TSD
CL
Honor
Frigid (Even though Firetruck is actually a good leader)
RAA

All of those clans take little to no effort to produce and as Tzakouza quoted himself "It's not hard to make a good clan" but the truth is it's because he's seen as such a good leader that everyone wants in on his groups to get a grasp of the glory.

The only two powerclans that weren't built off followers, and were built by the leader would be VAK, and TGI.

Most good superclans were built by good leaders and not their followers that wanted in on glory.
Examples include:
WIJ
TRA
UAF
NFC
FC
VS
RAT
UCR
JC
RSF
RNW
TRE (Original)

Then, they're the clans that are built solely on advertisements and VIP and have little to no effort by the leader other than money, or fame.
Examples include:
FEAR (Though SONIC in my books was a fairly good leader for a while)
IF
TD
BWE
FWC
HAU
LS
VN
SL
Arcen (SilentAngel era)
TRE (New)
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6flyguy6 is not online. 6flyguy6
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15 Nov 2013 02:26 PM
wow

i tihnk ur a good leader now just because you didnt put yourself in this list
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Distinctful is not online. Distinctful
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15 Nov 2013 02:26 PM
Indeed.
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Fauxtillion is not online. Fauxtillion
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15 Nov 2013 02:26 PM
but Honor was never a good clan
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Discover is not online. Discover
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15 Nov 2013 02:26 PM
do you want RAA to kill u...
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Allocated is not online. Allocated
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15 Nov 2013 02:26 PM
where's vso in the pay2win section

♜ hail hydrodash and mario "on 8/30/13 JC was admin attacked. they may not have won any wars, but they have won my heart." -imitater
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RedValiant is not online. RedValiant
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15 Nov 2013 02:27 PM
I think of myself as being alright at leading when I'm into it.

I'm Bane. ( ° ͜ʖ °)
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richyard is not online. richyard
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15 Nov 2013 02:27 PM
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15 Nov 2013 02:27 PM
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Discover is not online. Discover
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15 Nov 2013 02:27 PM
Btw Honor was a bandwagon clan :-)

and your primary is just bad
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reyrey112 is not online. reyrey112
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15 Nov 2013 02:29 PM
RNW and FC in the same list. What?
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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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15 Nov 2013 02:29 PM
@6flyguy

I'm not that good of a leader.

@Faux

Honor was considered a good clan in its prime. Please go back to Terbium.

@Discover

The first era of RAA I could say was good leadership by Sasuke, but this is bad now.

@Allo

Forgot a few. Apologies.

@Red

You're decent. Some of your eras showed good leadership, but some were followers.

~LV
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Distinctful is not online. Distinctful
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15 Nov 2013 02:29 PM
Lord, how is TVE?
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Fortone is not online. Fortone
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15 Nov 2013 02:29 PM
The original TRE used fame advertisements to gain members.

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EchoDuplication is not online. EchoDuplication
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15 Nov 2013 02:30 PM
>implying your a good leader

Tᴇʀʙɪᴜᴍ
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RedValiant is not online. RedValiant
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15 Nov 2013 02:30 PM
what you mean "but some were followers."

e.e

I'm Bane. ( ° ͜ʖ °)
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Restricting is not online. Restricting
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15 Nov 2013 02:30 PM
I think RAID took quite some work, I didn't start off as very popular at all.
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oliii is not online. oliii
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15 Nov 2013 02:30 PM
red you're a terrible leader


[://]-[Apathy's noob]:
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Discover is not online. Discover
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15 Nov 2013 02:31 PM
@LV

We're going 5-0 on UCR and 2-0 on UAF. Let's see you do that. :-)
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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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15 Nov 2013 02:31 PM
@Discover

That's why I put Honor in the bandwagon section.

Also, TVE is bad. That's why I'm trying to fix it.

@Distinct

Pretty up and down. We're trying to fix weekday activity. We can get 20 to an event on weekends, which is fairly good in our current state, but on weekdays we're having trouble getting over 10, which is a major issue.

~LV
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RedValiant is not online. RedValiant
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15 Nov 2013 02:32 PM
@olii

qq

I'm Bane. ( ° ͜ʖ °)
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crazyrobot13 is not online. crazyrobot13
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15 Nov 2013 02:32 PM
Might as well say "shutdown" for the VIP TRE.
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Drazeox is not online. Drazeox
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15 Nov 2013 02:32 PM
Wow that's accurate
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Phrixys is not online. Phrixys
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15 Nov 2013 02:32 PM
You forgot to add Valor legion into the "Best Groups on Roblox" List. Add pls
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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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15 Nov 2013 02:34 PM
@Echo

Your ignorance shows yet again. I never once stated I was a good leader, in fact I wrote in the comments that I'm not a good leader.

@Red

Some of your eras had Optyx being a bandwagon clan on C&G.

@Discover

You are such an idiot, it's hard to keep up a conversation with you.

I didn't call RAA bad. I said you're good for all the bad reasons.

TVE could not defeat UAF, (Maybe UCR) because we're not near the state of well-being that RAA is at because we've decided to take the long route and not go into C&G saying we're the best and all and making TVE a C&G clan.

~LV
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