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Re: Kestrel Rank Idea - Supervisors

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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
Joined: 06 May 2013
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06 Nov 2013 09:25 PM
Everyone knows of the Supervisor rank in Kestrel and it is very much needed, but the rank has very much importance with very few things to rely on. As equipment.
I've thought up some very good things on how to make the rank as Supervisor more meaningful with more privileges to actually go into action as a Supervisor.

Definition of Supervisor; "A person who supervises a person or an activity.".

If my knowledge is correct and the knowledge of the 2013 dictionary on the first definition of 'Supervisor' then I believe it's time for a change in some of the things the rank can do.

Idea 1:
Supervisor's should have their own group, or maybe system similar to WIJ's system of promoting and demoting. As you know, Supervisors look over mostly Intern's to see if they're fit for the job they have applied for. To either fail or pass them, supposedly. In which this system has failed to comply towards. We should either create an alternative group for Kestrel and the Supervisor's in Kestrel that is the system for passing/promoting/demoting by posting upon the wall if someone needs to be demoted based on their actions at the store or promoted based on their actions at the store. This way promotions can be more demanding with the Interns and maybe even other ranks as well, making them more common and carefully watched. Even though a Supervisor is to post on the wall saying they should be demoted, promoted, or passed as an Intern onto an employee only an actual admin which should be a few select few placed into the Supervisor's group to monitor the posts that go on in it so they can see who needs promotions, demotions, or passed onto employee. More information can be included if this idea is followed through.

Idea 2:
Supervisor's should have direct admin privileges. Since we're 'Supervisor's" why don't we get the admin privileges IN-GROUP wise to demote or promote members, such as Intern's when they're worthy enough to become an official employee or not. This would prove more dominance and direct attention to the Supervisor's. Currently if an Intern sees us they wouldn't care less what we say to them or consult with them on their current progress since they already know we cannot do anything about it, but tell an admin to handle them in which they do not. You might THINK the admin does something? They don't. They give Intern's warnings after warnings and never do anything. Even if the Intern is doing GOOD they don't do anything such as promotions and such. The changing of rank system is out of whack in which the admins in Kestrel blindly refuse to see the rank standing before their eyes that should be handling the ranking system, which is the Supervisors.

Idea 3: [Most recommended by me.]
The rank as "Supervisor" should be moved directly downwards above the rank of "Intern" and granted admin privileges in the group and in-game with a script if possible to demote and promote Interns or Sales Associate. This idea was great when I actually thought it out for a while. If the ranks where placed in that order then we could actually "SUPERVISE" them. If they constantly make mistakes or do a horrible job we could just simply trip them of their rank as Intern and fire them before they become an official employee, firing them to the rank of premium customer of course or the rank below. OR on the other hand promote them to Sales Associate . I would also recommend a rule that we cannot demote Sales Associates once they're promoted from "Intern". Due to the fact that I believe that gives us to much power as well as it merging with the power of a rank higher then ourselves admin-wise. This idea is extremely recommended.

These are the ideas I've taken into consideration to publish to the forums, I'd like to here ACTUAL feed back on it and not negative comments from trolls, even though you'd do so anyway since the ones who will have nothing else to do with their lives. I would like to see if you dislike the idea WHY and if you DO, WHY?

Please take these ideas into consideration to make them real into Kestrel.

\\_//-=:[~Veteran Zuus~]:=-\\_//
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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06 Nov 2013 09:26 PM
I highly doubt if I made any spelling errors, but if so I am sorry for that since I typed this extremely quickly. Please give ACTUAL MATURE feed back that is understandable and legit.
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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06 Nov 2013 09:41 PM
If you agree with one of these idea's, but don't have the time to explain why just post; "Support" and the idea you agree with.
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trickyk9100 is not online. trickyk9100
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06 Nov 2013 09:49 PM
Ehhh

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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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06 Nov 2013 10:00 PM
"Ehhh"??
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sinkinq is not online. sinkinq
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06 Nov 2013 10:22 PM
No offense intended, but there's a REASON why Supervisors don't get permanent admin, nor right to demote/promote people in group. And, (in my opinion) that reason is because Supervisors are still maturing (hence rank Senior Management), could easily promote friends, and aren't exactly "trusted" with admin just yet. And still, no offense, but I don't think SV's have the right to ask for admin, especially with all the ranks above them and whatnot. Just saying, you should be grateful you even have the job.
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Christomiss23 is not online. Christomiss23
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06 Nov 2013 11:27 PM
Well, this Forum does seem pretty convincing, but I still don't agree with the fact that Supervisors get so much power. Most of them go crazy once given all these immense powers, so I'd prefer to keep it at Senior Management+ to be rewarded with these powers. ~Director of Customer Service, Christy.
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jamkid12 is not online. jamkid12
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06 Nov 2013 11:37 PM
Just a war group member passing by.
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Schamidjaja is not online. Schamidjaja
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07 Nov 2013 12:02 AM
This is convincing, but this is not a smart move. Sorry, but I won't support it because you think that supervisors should have more power BECAUSE you are a supervisor. SMT have trouble with admin, imagine giving supervisors admin! That's crazy! Plus, half of the supervisors, I don't think they are trust-worthy yet either. I don't support this at all. -Director Of Staff [Schamidjaja]-
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reblex6122 is not online. reblex6122
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07 Nov 2013 12:04 AM
whats the point of high ranks in a group about clothes
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robloxianCEO is not online. robloxianCEO
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07 Nov 2013 12:08 AM
red leader passing by

swoggity swig, what's under the wig?
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MissBritain is not online. MissBritain
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07 Nov 2013 01:20 AM
I am not so sure that supervisors should be trusted with so much power and being able to rank people up and down .You can only start ranking people at Chief Operational Officers . Also many supervisors never come to Kestrel and If they start having this power they might abuse it and start ranking hard workers down . I also feel it a bad idea to give them admin as they have not earn't the trust of the admin of Kestrel.
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Biothox is not online. Biothox
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07 Nov 2013 01:47 AM
I can't imagine Supervisors with that much power. There's to many people who would have PA.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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07 Nov 2013 02:03 AM
tl;dr
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leo0816 is not online. leo0816
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07 Nov 2013 06:00 AM
I decline this proposal.

Leo0816
Kestrel Chairman of the Board
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thekoolguy593 is not online. thekoolguy593
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07 Nov 2013 06:09 AM
Tl; dr ... geht some life plz and complain about groups like normal person
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EBear917 is not online. EBear917
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07 Nov 2013 06:32 AM
You have a very convincing argument and this is very well thought out. The reason Supervisors don't get admin is because it leads to abuse. I'm not speaking specifically to you. We experienced this trouble with Senior Management last month. I can assure you though, if you do encounter a problem, feel free to send a Corporate Officer a PM and we can deal with the promotion or demotion.
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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07 Nov 2013 06:34 AM
You say they 'get more power' and only talk of admin and promoting/demoting when it clearly wasn't the only idea on this forum. Since that it was already '3' ideas posted here you failed to read the others it seem. Idea 1 says nothing of admin privileges, does it? All of your responses being negative about this forum when it seems you fail to comply with reading the number 1 idea at the very top of this forum. -_- On top of that most of you are not using grammar that is in Kestrel itself... Kinda' hard to entertain the though of reading some of your sentences.
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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07 Nov 2013 06:41 AM
@Sinkinq; It's extremely and utterly easy to get a job at Kestrel.
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littlelion309 is not online. littlelion309
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07 Nov 2013 06:41 AM
Convincing, but I wasn't really into it.

Just saying, supervisors shouldn't be given any admin powers. I like the normal system, Supervisor trains intern, Supervisor PMs UhmSir Or another COO that they've been trained, and what you've tought them.

"A similar promotion/demotion system like WIJ"

When you said WIJ, I was almost gone, no offense.
But comparing Kestrel to a war group just makes me feel odd, displeased.

No support.
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Biothox is not online. Biothox
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07 Nov 2013 09:33 AM
I do not support this at all, neither does the members of the Board as it sounds.
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Gidein is not online. Gidein
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07 Nov 2013 10:36 AM
Supervisor's are there to supervise, I'm sure that we have moved the intern training to Senior Management now but are trying to get it back to Supervisor's for them to have more role and place in the company.

Idea One:
We don't need another group for Supervisors, as my experience I've found that our interns do more work than some of our Supervisors so I doubt that most of our Supervisors even have the brains to control a group (No offence any smart supervisors). Also, the point of a Supervisor as known is to watch our SA's and Intern's and report issues to admins. So i'm going to say no to this idea.

Idea two:
I'm flat out just going to disagree with this idea, we already have enough admin issues as it is and we sometimes have issues dealing with them never mind giving another rank admin. That would just be chaos. Also, i'm rather offended you'd class us as 'admins' as we all have very different roles and if you want someone fired just report them to me with some evidence and i'll think about it.

Idea three:
We will hopefully never give Supervisor's the power of promotion/demotion. Its not a rank of huge power, its an in-store rank of where you still do the job of an SA but you are to show responsibility and supervise over the SA's and interns, not promote and demote them. So i'm actually going to say no to this also.

I've given these decisions because I'd rather not see our beautiful company turn into an admin house as we have other games for that already. Supervisor isn't suppose to be a rank of a lot of power, its one of them stepping stones to becoming a person of high importance and power. I do thank you for spending your time writing out all these idea's and suggestions. This does prove you are very interested in the companies future and this will most likely get you recognized a bit more.
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trickyk9100 is not online. trickyk9100
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07 Nov 2013 06:41 PM
I disagree.

Creative Director~Trick.
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VicePrezLava is not online. VicePrezLava
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07 Nov 2013 06:41 PM
Kestrel makes bad clothing
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Zuus0Sennin is not online. Zuus0Sennin
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07 Nov 2013 07:36 PM
Disagree or not. As You've stated the rank known as "Supervisor" has no meaning at all.
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