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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
Joined: 05 May 2009
Total Posts: 10834
04 Nov 2013 10:23 PM
I like you as a leader k.

Heil Texas.

Why so much hate towards NFC?

Where did it all come from?
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HistoricalMassacre is not online. HistoricalMassacre
Joined: 04 May 2012
Total Posts: 1610
04 Nov 2013 10:25 PM
Haven't heard of him doing anything bad. so, support.
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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Total Posts: 8022
04 Nov 2013 10:27 PM
Two things, unallying most of our allies and changing NFC to guns. Also denouncing C&G.
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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Total Posts: 985
04 Nov 2013 10:27 PM
Either the raid that occurred tonight.. Or the fact that he rage-exiled me... Or a mix of the 2. I wish that C&G Cared about old Firiga- but ye. The raids that occurred tonight ignited the flame war happening right now.
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Qreety is not online. Qreety
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
Total Posts: 12
04 Nov 2013 10:27 PM
People in C&G just lurch onto any new hate thread and make it their own, spreading the hate.
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HistoricalMassacre is not online. HistoricalMassacre
Joined: 04 May 2012
Total Posts: 1610
04 Nov 2013 10:29 PM
They just want attention.
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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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04 Nov 2013 10:29 PM
It was not a "rage exile." You began to rant (in front of NFC soldiers) about how I am a terrible leader, and how you could do better. About how ignorant I am and how I am killing NFC. I have never seen such arrogance in all my time on ROBLOX.

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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
Joined: 05 May 2009
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04 Nov 2013 10:29 PM
But wait....

You added guns ages ago?

Is C&G that late?
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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Total Posts: 985
04 Nov 2013 10:33 PM
If you want to play that game... Fire... I believe it was YOU who asked me if I could do a better job. and I told you, rather humorously "Oh, then let me try! ^^"

"No! You wouldn't ever give it back."

"You're right, because NFC won't succeed with you as a leader."
-"Oh, and Fire, I know what you did with the "Old Regimes"."Those are NFC HRs/Ex-NFC HRs that you're using to keep NFC active at the base."

"That's so rediculous I dont know what to say to that."

-Banned and Exiled-

I have witnesses, but who am I trying to prove myself to?
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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Total Posts: 985
04 Nov 2013 10:34 PM
There's a difference between arrogance, and knowing you could do a better job than someone else, fire.
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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
Joined: 05 May 2009
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04 Nov 2013 10:35 PM
Firgira that still wasn't right.

It was quite an ignorant way to state your opinion.
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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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04 Nov 2013 10:37 PM
mhm.

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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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04 Nov 2013 10:43 PM
Im being ignorant? You dont know the whole story- Oh bugger.

I was one of NFC's most skilled fighters - which isnt saying much, but still.

I've been shut out by him three times, upon matters of fixing NFC, but it is near impossible to get him to do anything that the LRs want, as well as being oblivious to the people that REALLY keep NFC going. Fireantfive does not deserve my respect, because he plays a part in a huge lie. That lie is NFC. NFC is dead, NFC is not a respectable nation - yet it has respectable people in it. A ridiculous base, with several ridiculous HRs, with no REAL rules, just each admin's personal aspect on what's right and wrong. If you want to start fixing NFC, fire, how about you fix the spawnkilling that happens second by second at the base? How about you make the core a little more fair? EVEN VAK COULDNT WIN A RAID AT ONE POINT, AND THEY MASS RAIDED YOU. VAK isn't the golden-group, but if they were to mass raid anyone else, they would've crushed them! But when one NFC gets lucky, the terminal is gone.

If you dont think I've spent countless hours in a week trying to help NFC - Ive been working on a base with C0D3Y and GGGGG14. With in-depth descriptions, blueprints.

As well as a constitution for NFC, but did I hear whisper of that from Fire? Nope.

You aren't trying as hard as you depict yourself to Fire - either that or you're just truly an incompetent leader.
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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
Joined: 05 May 2009
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04 Nov 2013 10:54 PM
Time to examine and respond to this little reply.

I was one of NFC's most skilled fighters - which isnt saying much, but still.
- Because skill must be sooooo important when choosing HRs. Also that's classy, making fun of skill because you've been exiled, cute.

I've been shut out by him three times, upon matters of fixing NFC, but it is near impossible to get him to do anything that the LRs want,
- Because LRs OBVIOUSLY know what's best for the clan.(Sarcasm)

as well as being oblivious to the people that REALLY keep NFC going. Fireantfive does not deserve my respect, because he plays a part in a huge lie. That lie is NFC. NFC is dead, NFC is not a respectable nation - yet it has respectable people in it.
- This may be a reason why he got rid of you. I wouldn't want a HR who blatantly disregards orders and insults the clan.

A ridiculous base, with several ridiculous HRs, with no REAL rules, just each admin's personal aspect on what's right and wrong. If you want to start fixing NFC, fire, how about you fix the spawnkilling that happens second by second at the base? How about you make the core a little more fair?
- The base has it's flaws, but there is a NICE way to say that.

EVEN VAK COULDNT WIN A RAID AT ONE POINT, AND THEY MASS RAIDED YOU. VAK isn't the golden-group, but if they were to mass raid anyone else, they would've crushed them! But when one NFC gets lucky, the terminal is gone.
- Because VAK is obviously the ultimate raiding force and is impossible to beat. So when the lose it s automatically unfair.(Sarcasn) New basis of argument please.

If you dont think I've spent countless hours in a week trying to help NFC - Ive been working on a base with C0D3Y and GGGGG14. With in-depth descriptions, blueprints.
-Was it approved by Fire, or even run by him? I would take some offense if you were building a base behind my back without even notifying me.

As well as a constitution for NFC, but did I hear whisper of that from Fire? Nope.
- Who cares? NFC should know it's own rules. The Constitution would just complicate things and probably be disregarded.

You aren't trying as hard as you depict yourself to Fire - either that or you're just truly an incompetent leader.
- You were a HR, obviously you must know of his struggles as a leader plus juggling a social life. (Sarcasm)
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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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04 Nov 2013 10:59 PM
I would take time to reply to your obviously biased statements after mine, but hey, Im not going to explain myself to someone that just warps whatever I say.
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WierdCaveman is not online. WierdCaveman
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:02 PM
just going to make any argumen tof what was said clear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upT7aBXnbF0
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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
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04 Nov 2013 11:04 PM
"I would take time to reply to your obviously biased statements after mine, but hey, Im not going to explain myself to someone that just warps whatever I say."

I am not biased. I simply side with logic. If someone is wrong I will let them know.

I just side with fire on this because he seems to be correct and because you are presenting yourself poorly.

I am not "warping", I am simply showing you how your opinion comes across a third party.
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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:05 PM
> I've been shut out by him three times, upon matters of fixing NFC

Like when you ragequit just before I got NFC?
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firiga is not online. firiga
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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04 Nov 2013 11:06 PM
Woopsies, looks like when I said "What the LRs want" I meant HRs. ****** Correction.

And I said in the statement about VAK "I know VAK isn't the 'Golden-Group, but still...', yet you went on in a smug sarcastic statement about what I JUST SAID. :l

Fireantfive doesn't = Logic, by the way. You should really look at the youtube video to see what he said in response to me.
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WierdCaveman is not online. WierdCaveman
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:07 PM
- Because LRs OBVIOUSLY know what's best for the clan.(Sarcasm)
> Hey, they're the people that the HRs are there to help. Without them the clan is nothing. If that's how you view LRs then I guess that just goes to show.. LRs aren't LRs because they're all "dum silly stoopid ;333", no, they're people too, many of them are in your age group if you didn't know!
- The base has it's flaws, but there is a NICE way to say that.
>I'd be biased in saying that the flaws in caedis are over the top, but I'm still going to say it.
- Because VAK is obviously the ultimate raiding force and is impossible to beat. So when the lose it s automatically unfair.(Sarcasn) New basis of argument please.
>He already countered that. If the numbers are extremely unfair and yet the raiding clan still can't win when its members are generally skilled (no lets not get into an argument about vak's members), then I mean it is a bit unfair in my opinion
-Was it approved by Fire, or even run by him? I would take some offense if you were building a base behind my back without even notifying me.
>He most likely was going to show it to him when it was done as a nice surprise if i were to guess
- Who cares? NFC should know it's own rules. The Constitution would just complicate things and probably be disregarded.
>if everyone knew the rules to everything then there wouldnt be court and lawyers


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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:07 PM
yes, because I am going to go into every secret detail in front of LR's.
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WierdCaveman is not online. WierdCaveman
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:08 PM
"I simply side with logic"
"Logic merely sanctions the conquests of the intuition."
-Jacques Salomon Hadamard
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WierdCaveman is not online. WierdCaveman
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:09 PM
Why not, fire? I mean they're the people who are getting the experience of your clan, and having fun in it. Shouldn't they have a say in what happens? I guess we have different views on that topic, it's kind of like real life government type choices :P.
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fireantfive is not online. fireantfive
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:11 PM
Certianly.
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WierdCaveman is not online. WierdCaveman
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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04 Nov 2013 11:13 PM
But if you agree with me there why would you hide things from them?
I mean yeah of course there are special cases, and I don't know the details you're talking about, but you get my point I guess.
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