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Re: I prefer being Second in Command than leader...

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UnVisualized is not online. UnVisualized
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03 Nov 2013 07:55 AM
Easier but still kinda hard.
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TwistedMartyr is not online. TwistedMartyr
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03 Nov 2013 07:56 AM
not really

most sic's are lazy or fat and they sit around doing nothing productive
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Lissitski is online. Lissitski
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03 Nov 2013 07:56 AM
You said it.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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03 Nov 2013 07:56 AM
Yes, the slightly more useless post of Second in Command.

Your responsibilities and obligations are about 1/3 that of the leader's.

You want all the power in the group without actually trying to run it.
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UnVisualized is not online. UnVisualized
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03 Nov 2013 07:56 AM
Well, that isn't me.
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03 Nov 2013 07:57 AM
I agree
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tylerberman is online. tylerberman
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03 Nov 2013 07:57 AM
i prefer being an lr its the best part of being in a clan :))

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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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03 Nov 2013 07:57 AM
In EL, I was 3iC and I did twice as much work than the 1iC and 2iC combined.
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LordDionysos is not online. LordDionysos
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03 Nov 2013 07:58 AM
I rather be two or one rank below the SiC & TiC ranks.
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UnVisualized is not online. UnVisualized
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03 Nov 2013 07:59 AM
President, that's where I knew you from. Why aren't you in Electro Legion anymore?
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Lissitski is online. Lissitski
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03 Nov 2013 07:59 AM
In RSF, as SiC, I did...well, you all probably know the story.

Still, being leader is fun too, if you got good HRs to distribute the work to.
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tylerberman is online. tylerberman
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03 Nov 2013 07:59 AM
lrs are the best. :D

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TwistedMartyr is not online. TwistedMartyr
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03 Nov 2013 08:00 AM
I usually allow the clan or a certain fraction of the clan to vote for the SiC.

I never do favoritism because yeah, a friend as SiC may be good as controlling the group, but you don't have the total effect of an "opposition" leader.
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03 Nov 2013 08:00 AM
Yes, but getting descent High Ranks are one of the hard parts.
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PresidentPig is not online. PresidentPig
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03 Nov 2013 08:01 AM
@Un, I just told you why I'm not in EL anymore. Consult my last post.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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03 Nov 2013 08:01 AM
An 2iC in opposition to you only means less gets done.

You shouldn't need it as you should always consider what your members want, and you should be good at listening to them.
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Lissitski is online. Lissitski
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03 Nov 2013 08:01 AM
That's why it helps to have been a HR before a leader. You got a personal "team" of HRs to use when needed.
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03 Nov 2013 08:02 AM
But a leader should also make his or hers own critical decisions. Also, ok PresidentPig I got you.
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Lissitski is online. Lissitski
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03 Nov 2013 08:04 AM
I became 2iC the old fashioned way.

Joined the clan, rose up the ranks, became General, then 4iC, 3iC and then 2iC. Then sadly retired.

All that in four years.
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TwistedMartyr is not online. TwistedMartyr
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03 Nov 2013 08:04 AM
@Kom

Actually know, having a bit of opposition in the HR's tends to be a good thing if its intentional.

You can have a lot more support and less doubt knowing you actually do productive stuff for the clan despite your leans toward a faction.
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03 Nov 2013 08:06 AM
But, I hate when you worked so hard to get something and your leader just demotes you for no reason and auto promotes this random person.
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03 Nov 2013 08:07 AM
I feel the same.
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Lissitski is online. Lissitski
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03 Nov 2013 08:08 AM
Good thing that didn't happen to me. I was too powerful to be demoted.
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03 Nov 2013 08:09 AM
But, they just died out again.
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03 Nov 2013 08:13 AM
I am too weak in morale to be leader, truely, but I am too strong to be just an HR.
So, 2iC is a good mix of both, and works for me, at least.
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