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Re: The real secret to combat on roblox. SwordsVGuns.

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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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26 Oct 2013 02:31 PM
Which do you prefer, and why? This is for a clan.
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Stephiy is not online. Stephiy
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
I prefer Swords.

"Do what you do and everything will be fine" - Unknown
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Omnishade is not online. Omnishade
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
guns can offer more variety than swords
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DysfunctionalBrick is not online. DysfunctionalBrick
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
guns.
but not rcl.

guns like the ones from CoR.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
@Steph

But why?
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pisicik is not online. pisicik
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
Swords because...


*Guns are for the weak*
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MsSoulEater is not online. MsSoulEater
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
y not both?
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daruto3 is not online. daruto3
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26 Oct 2013 02:32 PM
I like both.
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Smooks12 is not online. Smooks12
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26 Oct 2013 02:33 PM
Guns are more modern. Swords are medieval.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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26 Oct 2013 02:33 PM
@Ms

Generally doesn't mix very well. Like the SWD at Indigo...you can't get within a few studs before you're killed.
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Stephiy is not online. Stephiy
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26 Oct 2013 02:33 PM
Because swords are fun.

"Do what you do and everything will be fine" - Unknown
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fallenflash is not online. fallenflash
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26 Oct 2013 02:33 PM
guns

kid chase me with a sword and i'll put you on ur arse with my gpr

! RSF Major; fallenflash
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Valosion is not online. Valosion
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26 Oct 2013 02:33 PM
I prefer swords.
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Nhelp is online. Nhelp
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26 Oct 2013 02:34 PM
swords are less laggy
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Subwoofer6 is not online. Subwoofer6
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26 Oct 2013 02:34 PM
this is why they invented the bayonet

but I personnaly prefer guns to swords

especially rifles

-this man is a legend-
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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26 Oct 2013 02:36 PM
Your responses are interesting. Also yes, swords do lag less meaning a 30 player server would feel like 10 people.
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E981 is not online. E981
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26 Oct 2013 02:56 PM
"Swords or guns?"
--Swords lag less, don't need someone to code or build them.
Roblox combat is very simplistic, there is virtually no skills, its all about various factors which the player either isn't aware of or has virtually no control over, such as lag (type of PC you have, matching one players PC in combat against another's that may or may not be faster, can't control or predict this), if the player gets killed by a lag healer (someone who lags so bad they just don't die), ect.

Assuming you've got an even 10 v 10 clan match, its like playing chess.
The pawns/average players move forward, they are either removed/killed right away or they are not.
Difference is is that these pawns, which are actually players spawn again.
Its really a dice roll (all the variables that contribute to one's survival in the raid or death) as to who lives and doesn't.
For instance lets set team 1 (10 players) attacks team 2 (also 10 players), dying is a 50-50 probability, that means only 1 person can live, and the other dies.
10 players from both team 1 or team 2 will live, and the other 10 will die.
I think we all know that the chances that either team 1 or 2 completely kill the other team without taking a single casualty is pretty far fetched.
This being said, each side will, expect casualties. Those casualties will differ every time.
If one side takes 5 casualties, and the other takes3, the one that took 3, now has 7 men versus the other team's 5 left.
Odds will tell you that in a dice roll, 5vs 7, 7 is better odds.
Because the team with 7 has better odds, they will more than likely kill all 5 and proceed to the flag.
That team may end up having 2 guys left to get the flag or 1, it doesn't matter.

Because this is roblox we must take into account that all players respawn, and this completely resets the odds. The 10 players you just killed have now respawned vursus your 1-2 guys at the flag.
Now who has the better odds? It is now 10vs2, they will more than likely take back the flag from you.

then your men respawn and take it back from them, and it goes on and on over and over again until someone gets mad and calls it quits, or claims a win.




Bottomline when combat on thus game is nothing but a dice roll, the only thing that matters is how fast of an interval these dice are cast.
What speeds or slows this down? The method of killing.
Swords, less lag, kill faster. Down to the point.
Guns, higher probability of lag, takes longer to kill. Your men may go afk due to an overly prolonged battle leaving you at a numerical disadvantage.

Real question you must ask yourself:
-Swords so the outcome of the raid is determined faster, perhaps less lag?
-Guns because you personally enjoy them, no real rational for them, increased chance of lag.
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Protector57 is not online. Protector57
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26 Oct 2013 02:56 PM
Swords
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Arcitsu is not online. Arcitsu
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26 Oct 2013 02:57 PM
Swords are fun.

~Arcitsu
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Kyrosoid is not online. Kyrosoid
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26 Oct 2013 02:57 PM
swords are more loved
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26 Oct 2013 02:58 PM
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26 Oct 2013 02:59 PM
Both!

Gunblades!


The future is now!
http://www.roblox.com/LEAKED-RAT-GUN-item?id=102032231

http://www.roblox.com/LEAKED-RAT-GUN-item?id=113562983
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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26 Oct 2013 03:04 PM
@E9

Nice example. Also answers why OSE only used swords. I was asking for the preference of others, because I want to make a game people enjoy. I myself prefer swords over guns because of some factors you stated. Right to the POINT. Less lag.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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26 Oct 2013 03:06 PM
Guns are way more fun and it's proved that it's more of a test of skill rather then timing/luck.
I personally just think it's stupid that you don't even have to be facing me to kill me with a sword.
@person who said CoR guns are good, they take a lot less skill then RCL. You could literally camp in a hidden spot and get like 20 kills without anyone finding you, it's sad.
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