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Re: persuance is a good example of this

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blackmagic22 is not online. blackmagic22
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16 Oct 2013 08:56 PM
leaders not liking people in their clans who simply say an opinion because it hurts their ego.

loyal members are members who say what needs to be said regardless of what the consequences might be, not kiss-ups who go "UR AMAZIN AND DA BEST LEADER EVA".

when i was jc, i'd tell john what i thought about certain things that he was doing wrong. same with darxia in nfc, and now sellethore in haze. when i lead a few clans i also listened to all feedback from members because you do a better job leading a clan when you listen to the members of the clan and not your buddies who you insta-promoted to hr.


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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 08:57 PM
If he's accept some of the thinking of his LRs, he might become VERY successfull...
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Persuance is not online. Persuance
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16 Oct 2013 08:58 PM
i allow freedom but if its not put in a harsh way
if he said
"i dont think what you're doing is right"
i would have been more inclined to be nice rather than seeing this;
"persuance is gonna kill roc................."

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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:00 PM
I was being honest...Want me to make a new thread saying

Persuance, I don't think you're right

Besides...I wanted it to have a title that grabbed attention...I wanted people to 'support' or 'no support' it
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Ryukoto is not online. Ryukoto
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16 Oct 2013 09:01 PM
wow.........................................................
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Persuance is not online. Persuance
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16 Oct 2013 09:02 PM
i dont like a title that attacks me but i dont honestly care what a subforum filled with 13 year olds think of me

if you attack me throughout your paragraph then i will attack you back

ive done this with clans before jacob, i have experience and know what im doing
ive been in like every recognizable clan as a high rank before

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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:03 PM
I didn't attack you, I attacked your ideas.

And we're not all 13 year olds...
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Persuance is not online. Persuance
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16 Oct 2013 09:05 PM
most of you are

my ideas are my personality which makes up me
you attacked me

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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:08 PM
lolno...No offense...But read a logic book...A good 12th grader or college logic book...And you will find that ideas don't make a personality...A personality makes an idea.
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Persuance is not online. Persuance
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16 Oct 2013 09:09 PM
jacob if all you are gonna do is argue you dont belong in roc

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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:11 PM
I'm sharing an opinion...Advice...And personal experience...You are the one arguing it.
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blackmagic22 is not online. blackmagic22
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16 Oct 2013 09:11 PM
persuance if you're not going to listen to your members than you don't belong in roc.
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Persuance is not online. Persuance
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16 Oct 2013 09:11 PM
......you just argued with that statement

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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:12 PM
I defended with that statement (and the one I just made)
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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:17 PM
And you should read black's statement twice.
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blackmagic22 is not online. blackmagic22
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16 Oct 2013 09:19 PM
it's people like him that make clans suck sometimes.
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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:20 PM
I feel like I'm about to be exiled :/

:/
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blackmagic22 is not online. blackmagic22
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16 Oct 2013 09:21 PM
join haze. we accept peoples opinions.
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Jacobiesoccer09 is not online. Jacobiesoccer09
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16 Oct 2013 09:25 PM
Do they need opinions?

lol
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blackmagic22 is not online. blackmagic22
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16 Oct 2013 09:28 PM
all clans need opinions.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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16 Oct 2013 09:29 PM
A leader should seek informed followers who are willing to criticize his motives and actions. If he/she can't defend those actions, then he should not be attempting them.

A leader who seeks blind zealotry from his constituency will harm the clan in the long run.
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