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Re: Star Wars is likely inspired from Dune

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joppastik23 is not online. joppastik23
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16 Oct 2013 08:49 PM
Dune was published originally in 1965, whereas Star Wars was published during the 1970s.
We have Luke Skywalker in the role of Paul Atreides, the young man of destiny, both tied to desert planets. They are the kwisatz haderach. Luke's future is in his genes ("The Force is strong in my family.") and as unavoidable as Paul's was to him. Like Paul, Luke has to learn and explore his odd new role as a being unlike other humans. Both Paul and Luke had to come to terms with being parts of worlds that those around them couldn't see and didn't understand.

The Rebels are the Fremen fighting the Empire and the Emperor. Darth Vader is the Baron, the outward symbol of evil. The Baron as Paul's grandfather is Vader as Luke's father, the necessary, unbreakable link between the good and the evil, as well as the necessary warning to Luke/Paul of the dangers of following the path of evil to the dark side of the Force.

Duncan Idaho is Han Solo, and Leia is Alia. Will, in later sequels, Leia be tortured and unable to cope with her Jedi powers as Alia was hers?

Though superficially Star Wars is a glitzy space opera with a simple good guys battling bad guys theme, the whole focus of the trilogy comes down to one moment—and it's a deeper, more intense, thing that shooting off lasers and making things go boom. The key moment in Star Wars is on the 2nd Death Star, when Luke is wavering on the dark side of the Force as he fights Vader. The moment he realizes what's happening to him, when he looks at his artificial hand and at Vader's severed artificial hand, everything before crystalizes and Luke, at that crux moment, decides the entire future of the galaxy. Paul has this same crux moment when he sees the banner of House Atreides in the future over all the worlds, and battles. Both Paul and Luke committed to their own golden path and shaped the futures of their universes.

An epiphany provide by Geo is the parallel to Jessica — Obi Wan Kenobi is Jessica. She's the one who raised the kwisatz haderach and trained him in his powers, as did Obi Wan to Luke. They had the guilt of having plans go astray and the consequences affecting their entire universe.

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asdfasd hhh 123
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16 Oct 2013 08:53 PM
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16 Oct 2013 08:54 PM
yes

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16 Oct 2013 08:57 PM
Really though you have some pretty good points here.
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16 Oct 2013 08:59 PM
Leia doesn't have Jedi powers

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16 Oct 2013 09:05 PM
"leia doesn't have jedi powers"
leia is luke's sister as alia is paul atreides' sister

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16 Oct 2013 09:06 PM
fremen and house atreides=rebels
house harkonnen and the imperium=galactic empire
star wars is far more generic
sardaukar=stormtroopers

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16 Oct 2013 09:07 PM
Starwars was from multiple movies.
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16 Oct 2013 09:07 PM
yeah but leia isn't force-sensitive

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16 Oct 2013 09:07 PM
atreides crest=hawk
rebel crest=looks almost like a hawk

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16 Oct 2013 09:08 PM
"leia doesn't have the force"
she does after episode VI as a jedi knight of the new jedi order

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16 Oct 2013 09:09 PM
you don't just acquire force sensitivity

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16 Oct 2013 09:09 PM
notice how imperial shuttles have quite a resemblance to the wing system of an ornithopter

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16 Oct 2013 09:09 PM
"Leia Organa Solo (born Leia Amidala Skywalker) was, at various stages of her life, a politician, revolutionary, and Jedi Knight of the New Jedi Order. The daughter of Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker and Senator Padmé Amidala of Naboo, Leia was the younger twin sister of Luke Skywalker, and, shortly after her birth, she became the adopted daughter of Bail Organa and Queen Breha of Alderaan, making her a Princess of Alderaan. An accomplished Senator, Leia Organa was most famous for her strong leadership during the Galactic Civil War and other subsequent galactic conflicts, making her one of the galaxy's greatest heroes. Later she married Han Solo, and became the mother of their three children: Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin Solo. Around the start of the Swarm War, Leia unknowingly became a grandmother through Jacen's daughter Allana."

-star wars wiki
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16 Oct 2013 09:13 PM
Mikey, you are so very wrong, Leia is force sensitive, just not in the movies.

Plus, OP, Luke was trained to his fullest by Yoda, had it not been for Yoda, Luke would not have been prepared enough for Vader.
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16 Oct 2013 09:14 PM
But being force sensitive doesn't automatically make you a jedi

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16 Oct 2013 09:14 PM
yoda was to luke as jessica was to paul atreides
obi wan was to anakin as jessica was to paul atreides

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16 Oct 2013 09:14 PM
@ty
you ignored the fact she is a jedi knight after the books

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16 Oct 2013 09:16 PM
I wont believe it until I see her training in Rocky fashion

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