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Pengu8 is not online. Pengu8
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12 Oct 2013 11:44 PM
Hi der
yeah I just came back to LoL from like 3 months ago I believe. I realize the turret's health have been significantly reduced and that champs take more damage?

I just need some tips on laning.
I'm trying to master Viktor atm, and Veigar (he used to be my main) is now nerfed to ashes and I can't even use him against a good annie anymore... He's not really viable in competitive games really.

I'm level 28 and I'm just asking for tips on solo laning mid. Again, I'm trying to do well with Viktor, but I always tend to get outmatched or out of mana from time to time and then the enemies damage my mid turret and I never get the chance to get back at them.

So yeah, tips?



btw is the item sets working because I can't seem to find my set @ every match I play, I already made the set for Viktor and I have already saved/assigned it to all maps, but it doesn't appear.
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Loeogannst is not online. Loeogannst
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12 Oct 2013 11:45 PM
Make sure you Laugh out Loud!

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Pengu8 is not online. Pengu8
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12 Oct 2013 11:51 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
yeah real funny
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Gentlemedleman is not online. Gentlemedleman
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13 Oct 2013 12:38 AM
Mid lane is all about match ups. If you want to play mid, I suggest you have a variety of champs who survive many common match ups in the midlane. Veigar is only viable in draft pick as a counter pick, because many of the FotM champions who fit into the current meta utterly destroy him.
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13 Oct 2013 12:40 AM
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4luckykid is not online. 4luckykid
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13 Oct 2013 12:48 AM
inb4 overrwatcher posts here
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Oct 2013 04:05 AM
i'm silver v, with about 850 normal games played, play pretty much only mid, and viktor is my secondary main. i'm here to help.

"yeah I just came back to LoL from like 3 months ago I believe. I realize the turret's health have been significantly reduced and that champs take more damage?"

turrets are actually even stronger now, but the league of warmog's has been nerfed hard though, so people are squishier.

"I just need some tips on laning.
I'm trying to master Viktor atm, and Veigar (he used to be my main) is now nerfed to ashes and I can't even use him against a good annie anymore... He's not really viable in competitive games really."

on viktor, start two charms, 2 mana pots, 1 health pot > chalice and augment: death (if you can afford death, buy it, otherwise chalice) > athene's > sorc's > rabadon's > deathfire > liandry's. max r > e > q > w. be a lane bully and spam e, but feel free to farm with it. and veigar wasn't nerfed, the meta changed being unfavorable for immobile mages.

"I'm level 28 and I'm just asking for tips on solo laning mid. Again, I'm trying to do well with Viktor, but I always tend to get outmatched or out of mana from time to time and then the enemies damage my mid turret and I never get the chance to get back at them."

follow my build and (POLITELY) ask for blue buff after the second or third time the jungler takes it in order to not have mana issues. if you get countered, play super passive and farm with your e. the only lanes viktor stands no chance in are fizz, leblanc, and ap tristana. viktor is super mana hungry, but rushing chalice leads to stable mana. if the enemy mid is damaging your turret, retaliate by forcing them out of lane and damaging theirs. don't spend too long attacking it, though, or you will get ganked.

for general tips:

-force a trade (small skirmish with the enemy) when you see the enemy jungler at top, bot, or dead. with viktor, it's a simple eq. with veigar, it's ewq. you don't keep fighting after that, you back off before the enemy can retaliate.

-learn your champion's strength and weaknesses. viktor has high trading potential early due to the shield and high damage, but low all-in early due to high cooldowns. he is difficult to gank due to his w, and can easily kill the enemy mid at level 6 with a jungler gank due to the w. a random example, kassadin, has a really bad pre-6, but becomes a complete lane bully who can instakill you at level 6. you would need to zone him (separate him from the minions) as much as possible by using your ranged advantage.

-push the lane. unlike top or bot, nothing bad comes from a pushed lane. you can either recall, kill wraiths/wolves, or roam around the map to gank. pro players reach 200 creep score in 20 minutes because they take wraiths and wolves after pushing. make sure that your jungler is far away from the camp, though, as otherwise he might get mad.

-if you are at low health, RECALL. the longer you stay at low health, zoned from the minions, the worse it gets. and, you can get killed easily.

-be wary of all-in power. almost every champ in the game can catch an enemy off-guard with a good flash, ult, and burst. always expect a champion to be able to deal at least half your health in damage.

-DO NOT go farther than the river's wall. you are in a perfect opportunity for a jungle gank, and there is no way you can escape one if it happens.

-if you're getting jumped on, don't just stand and fight unless you're confident you will win, but don't just take all the hits and run either. find the perfect mix. this is a lot like trading. with viktor, you eq the enemy, w yourself, and run away. with veigar, you ewq the enemy and run.

-never underestimate your enemy. that akali may be dealing no damage with her q, but you don't know that if she does q > r > auto > q > e, 75% of your health is missing. that cassiopeia seems to have pathetic damage until you all-in her, when she evaporates your 2000 health by spamming e. even a 0/6 diana is something to be afraid of, because it is entirely possible for them to win a fight. it's better to overestimate than to underestimate.

-if you get behind, play passive and farm, farm, farm. kills don't win games, farm does. a 3/0 leblanc with 20 cs is worse than a 0/4 karthus with 150 cs. hold out until lategame, and that's where you can make a comeback.

and that's all i feel like sharing right now.
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TouchDetective is not online. TouchDetective
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13 Oct 2013 05:36 AM
heres a tip:play dota
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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13 Oct 2013 05:41 AM
play dota
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guialex is not online. guialex
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13 Oct 2013 07:06 AM
don't play dota or lol

it's the only way to keep you sane
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skylineninja is not online. skylineninja
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13 Oct 2013 08:34 AM
tips on lol?

wut legend of lol?
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Pengu8 is not online. Pengu8
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13 Oct 2013 04:01 PM
@over
thanks so much
that's the kind of answer I like
hey, can you tell me some info for the next champion I should buy?
I always have the tendancy to buy a champion that I seem interested in, then I use it, but then I don't use it after a while. Like my Blitzcrank and my Zilean. I only choose them when I feel like my team needs an AD carry of I feel like my team isn't good enough
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Oct 2013 09:55 PM
you seem to like immobile mages.

i'd recommend cassiopeia. she's super difficult to play (if you miss your q in a combo then you can't use e, and e is all your damage), but has THE highest damage output out of any mage, no contest. in only three seconds, at full build you deal over 6.6k damage, provided you have q, w, r, dfg, and spamming e. and this is excluding liandry's.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Oct 2013 09:58 PM
immobile mages.

If you want to play an immobile Mage try Xerath. I'm not a fan of them. Prefer mobile Assassins myself (Starting to main Eve recently.)

Also, Blizt and Zilean? Do you tend to play support? Or do you take them mid or top?
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spear593 is not online. spear593
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13 Oct 2013 10:02 PM
tip: play a real moba
aka dota
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Oct 2013 10:07 PM
tip: play a real moba
aka dota

Hmph

Valve has greatly reduced its efforts to release more heroes because they are reallocating their efforts to new games.

No ranked mode. Valve has diligently removed any and all individual skill indicators. You are supposed to play on third party ladders... which tend to be composed entirely of arrogant asses and may actually ban you for having a bad score.

No tribunal - you get auto punished after getting reported in 2 games in 24 hours. Getting reported for not speaking Russian or for having a negative score as the support can and does happen.

No real matchmaking - Dendi (the world's best Dota player) ended up with a newbie with 5 wins in one of his games. Despite this, queue times are fairly long for some reason.

If you play at times when Russia is awake, there will be Russians in your game. In general, people from second world countries just tick every language and server checkbox to get faster games.

All pick mode is clunky as hell - you can see what the enemy is picking and you can actually wait until after the match starts at the cost of missing exp, so games of counterpick chicken are annoyingly common. On top of that, hitting random will give you bonus gold at the start, which theoretically rewards players with more game knowledge, but all it does is add a luck element to the match.

Captain mode is supposed to be the "srs bsns" mode, but the team captain actually gets to pick heroes for you. If you intend to play anything other than the OP FotM, he can just tell you "no" and stuff weaver in your face (and if the captain is unskilled, you will end up with a useless hero).

Dota requires and rewards team strategy much more than LoL, but there is hardly any team strategy to be found outside of organised play. A game that encourages making sacrifices for the team doesn't mesh well with the typical solo attitude.

Griefers always win. A griefer can pick KotL/wisp and teleport you off the map, then hijack the courier. If you don't have a TP scroll already on your character, you will be stuck until you get kicked for being afk after 5 minutes and go into low priority queue.

No surrender, of course. Also, many matches end with the losing team getting fountain camped and repeatedly killed on their spawn. If this goes on for 5 minutes without any of the campers dying, then someone on the losing team gets kicked for being afk and goes into low priority queue.

Support may be fun because you can actually kill people due to the lack of scaling on spells, but you also don't get assists unless you deal damage. Because of this, many supports (Omni...) end up with horrid scores and get reported a lot.

People keep saying Riot lies, but Valve actually did lie. They said the punishment system "looks at patterns of behaviour over time", until someone actually tested it and discovered that you get punished for 2 games with reports in 24 hours. Matchmaking is shaping up to be a similar story.


Despite the awesome mechanics in Dota 2, the grass isn't always greener...
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spear593 is not online. spear593
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13 Oct 2013 10:10 PM
simple answer
find a paid service like esea for csgo
play there where you don't get russians. play a deeper game
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spear593 is not online. spear593
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13 Oct 2013 10:12 PM
or just try the 3rd party free services once you learn the game
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Oct 2013 10:12 PM
find a paid service like esea for csgo
play there where you don't get russians. play a deeper game

Or just play LOL with decent matchmaking? Then you don't have to find a paid service... Also, Russians aren't the only problem (No offence Russians. Espically Putin. Don't hurt me please.)
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Oct 2013 10:15 PM
hey dota fans

league and dota are different games

can you do this in dota? http://youtu.be/aiA5Tt1RHcg
or this? http://youtu.be/XdN67NuhMW4?t=3m4s
or this? http://youtu.be/dDsbG5Y89Co
or this? http://youtu.be/4PLgn_5mNxg

league is smoother, more streamlined, more action-based, more focused on individual skill. dota is deeper, more complex, more strategy-based, more focused on team comps and team coordination.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Oct 2013 10:16 PM
more focused on individual skill.

Then why do I always lose when my mid feeds Fizz 20 kills in 4 minutes?
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Oct 2013 10:17 PM
TIMED THE SECOND LINK WRONG

http://youtu.be/XdN67NuhMW4?t=2m32s
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Oct 2013 10:18 PM
because it's one person carrying the team

and i always ban fizz in ranked. not because i hate fighting him (i do), but because i don't trust my teammates to not feed him hard. fortunately he's getting a huge nerf along with zed, kassadin, and ahri.
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flawlesszelda is not online. flawlesszelda
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13 Oct 2013 10:37 PM
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Oct 2013 10:38 PM
he's getting a huge nerf along with zed, kassadin, and ahri.

Pfft. They should focus on nerfing the real OP champs. Like Hiemer.
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