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| 14 Oct 2013 10:43 PM |
FEAR is being FEAR, minding their own business when JC comes along and wants to attack them.
FEAR, being FEAR, doesn't want to attack. They are the neutrals.
JC are the hostiles.
RAT, being RAT, decides to get in on the action feeling left out, and defends FEAR, seeing that the alternative would be going against FEAR who doesn't really care to fight now anyways.
RAT are the defenders.
TD would take the side of JC, seeing that JC is somewhat outnumbered by RAT and TD wasn't doing much that day anyways. TD would be the first ally that's involved, the 4th clan overall, and completing the 4 largest "War clans"
Now there are 3 sides: Neutral (FEAR), Hostile (JC and TD) and Defense (RAT)
RAT would organize a correlation with RSF, who doesn't really care for the current Ro-War and wants something exciting to do in the meantime not really realizing they're starting an actual Ro-War, and subsequently VS, X101st, and TRA would follow. Now it's RAT, RSF, VS, X101st, TRA, and FEAR (though FEAR still doesn't really know or care about what's going on)
BWE, still existing, would be torn between JC and RSF as allies. Staying neutral in this war would be too easy, so BWE would create a 4th side- Fighting for peace. BWE would round a few allies and their allies, leaving BWE with USSF, EL, and FWC.
BWE had of course, yet accidentally, contacted Night's USA group while speaking with allied leaders. Realizing it was more of a group that a clan, he hadn't really offered for the USA to get involved.
A 5th and never before seen in the clan world side to Ro-Wars would be introduced, with a country-themed militia fighting for peace among the clan world, yet against the fighters who fight for peace who doubted their power and unity in strength from the get-go.
Is this likely to happen? No, no way. Still fun to think about and map out in my head though. And how I imagine persuading the group leaders to wage war with each other is just as interesting. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:45 PM |
| Where do "B-Sized" clans come into play? The ones from 200-4,000 troops that just aren't known in C&G? |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:47 PM |
you forgot uaf in the defenders
because uaf defends
that's why theyre allied with rat
so ya
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:48 PM |
| Just like in any other major role they'd follow, less noticed at first, and end up representing an overwhelming majority of each side, or at least around 50% of each side, respectively, and the Ro-War will lose focus and just become an all out warfare, being fought aimlessly, pointlessly, and hopelessly, until FEAR realizes they're the center of the war so they just surrender, having no real stakes in it, and the war can then end. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:49 PM |
| :D I like it, Magnifico. The pure though of absolute raiding madness is oddly fun for me. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:51 PM |
| Ha, well, as fun as it would be, in the sense that a war is used to accomplish something, Ro-Wars, no matter who the winner or the reason of the war, have no changes by the end. Just another clan name to the defeat list. All out fighting would, of course, be fun, but at the same time it would accomplish nothing, which is why each side would want to back out, but the plethora of B sized clans would keep them engaged and forced into it until the starter can finally quit it. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:53 PM |
| ..And of course, then you get the little synapses of smaller clans fighting for the scraps of war left, even growing in their numbers. Hate is a powerful tool. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:55 PM |
Distinctly driven hatred is nowhere near as powerful as all-complying unity to one cause. This can't exist though, at least with freedom or freely conscious minds, since even if you fight for the same goal, the motive may be different.
The smaller clans fighting the scraps of the war will be used by the leader of each 4 sides as an excuse to keep the war going since nobody ever wants to admit defeat, even when there's nothing being fought. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:56 PM |
| Take Syrian rebels for example, Magnifico, and you couldn't be more true. But isn't unification a result of hate? |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:59 PM |
Indeed, yet there is also one powerful tool that seems to be overlooked here.
If we're just coming up with crazy ideas, perhaps deceit would be a powerful asset to mention here. Perhaps RAT would create a crazy plot twist and turn on FEAR. :3 This would make things more interesting with every passing battle. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 10:59 PM |
Unification is the result of common grounds. It might not be that the rebels hate something, rather that they all enjoy going against it. There are illusions mixed in with emotions.
Several times I've found myself "liking" someone throughout the years, when, after a while, I don't actually like the person. I just like how I felt when I thought I liked them. The illusion of that feeling was enough to convince me temporarily, and the illusion of unification is enough to actually unify those with a cause. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:01 PM |
Good thinking with betrayal, Jedi, but in this theory FEAR isn't really doing anything. People are fighting FEAR's war for it for no reason but something to do.
Morale and high spirits are always one of the top priorities in the time leading up to and during a war. When groups go to war out of boredom, or craving activity, the war will die out, and the clan comes out less active than ever. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:02 PM |
| Well, it's not a Ro-War if you make it, but what about if we MASTERMIND it? ;P |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:03 PM |
A Ro-War doesn't appear. If you call a war a Ro-War it gets ignored, mocked, shunned, etc.
It gains the title on its own. You can spark a war, sure, and guide it through the path to becoming a Ro-War, but there are no guarantees, and the risk of wasting time is always high when dealing with wars on roblox. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:05 PM |
| You've got me wanting for an actual RO-WAR to start, drat.. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:06 PM |
| Time, the most precious resource of all. And, often times, its hard to ignite the flames of war outside the clans. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:08 PM |
| Ah, but remember, there is weeks of planning. You must make sure the morale and spirit of the group you want to be involved for your cause rises and begins to train with similar weapons and circumstances that the enemy's fort is in. Then you should round up other groups, either through alliances or those with a similar cause, before moving onto the final proclamation, which can be ignored if not displayed correctly. The proclamation display is very important and is one thing I haven't figured out. I know what NOT to do, but I don't know how to do it perfectly. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:08 PM |
| I agree. An all-out Ro-War would be very exciting. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:09 PM |
No group is in a Ro-War for the excitement. Everyone wants something. Be it activity, or members, or a better title, there's always something.
You can, however, act it out, which is something I thought of experimenting with to cause some planned out wars which would be a giant conspiracy theory since it actually would have been planned out by the leaders. Oh well. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:11 PM |
| On the other hand; if you can get a group that is really bloodthirsty and eager to start a fight out of nothing, it can escalate in the Clan-worlds very quickly. Delicate hands won't move mountains in a day. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:16 PM |
| BUT, Jedi, they need to be smart, too. Delicate hands are a no, but intricate minds are a must, especially if they're on the same plan as you. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:17 PM |
There are not that many active, skilled, eager and ready superclans out there that are bloodthirsty and want to start a bunch of fights.
Even then, it wouldn't spread quickly, as they'd be the only ones with these traits. The other groups would ignore them, or fight back slightly, but a cause would not be established and rounded up that quickly or aimlessly.
The thing that mkaes clans united in any way is a common ground, which I mentioned earlier. It's easier to guarantee complete alliance assistance when the two clans BOTH hate a group than when just one hates a group and needs help with a few raids, inconsistent with numbers and whatnot. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:20 PM |
| Point seen. I agree. A common goal gives clans equal ground, in a way I think. |
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| 14 Oct 2013 11:22 PM |
| In Isaac Asimov's (if anything most people would know him from the title I Robot, a movie with Will Smith based off of his book with the same name) book, Foundation and Empire, there's a man named The Mule who conquers worlds without a fight. Two people from the Foundation meet a clown named Magnifico, who used to be the Mule's jester and is utterly terrified by the Mule. He journeys on with them as they try to find where the Second Foundation is, which is where the Mule needs to go to finally conquer the entire galaxy. In the end, they discover the jester, Magnifico, was really the Mule. I get your name! Yay!!! |
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