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| 06 Oct 2013 12:10 PM |
(ALERT) Very long thread. If you are against the Price Floor Update you will like this post, if you are not against it, read it. Remove the Price Floor and I'm gonna give some very good valid points I saw users gave. This is a post made by corfish67 and he explained doing this is not how you run a business.
corfish67: Mikey, it's obvious you've NEVER worked in or ran a business, nor do you have any experience with a business.
Rule 1 of business, the customer is ALWAYS right. NBC are customers, we utilize their servers. If a business spits in the face of potential "upgraded" customers, (BC), then they are going to lose. It's as simple as that.
Instead of almost forcing people to buy a product to enable a special service in game, they should rather adhere to what the community wants by creating polls for updates to decide whether or not many people want it. They should also become WAY more active within the community. By taking steps such as these it will encourage more people to buy BC because the business doing it's job and respecting it's customers.
Just this alone is enough to already prove ROBLOX Corporation is NOT a good business. It matters not of the quantity of the product, (all these updates), but rather the quality of a product the customer wants.
Couldn't have said it any better.
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Demon4352: Okay.... so after a month off of ROBLOX, I log on today to find that a minimum sale price is 10 R$ or 100 tix. I don't know what your idea is but even for the average BC member it would take 2 days to earn money to buy 1 shirt or pants, let alone the NBC members, who would have to wait 10 days before buying any clothes what-so-ever. I don't know if you are trying to encourage nudity, immature behaviour, or whatever it may be, but overall quality of ROBLOX has gone down due to your several "Updates". I don't even count them as updates, your down-grading the game. Damn, if you think ROBLOXIAN 3.0 was an achievement then you have to think again. It is hideous. It burns my pupils to look at it. My face has to go to the bathroom every time I gaze upon it. It is disgusting. Your new studio caused several builders to quit. SEVERAL GOOD BUILDERS. You replaced the original bricks that we joined for, with ugly bricks. You tried to copy mine craft and failed miserably. Unlike you they are actually making money. I predict if you don't "update" the game anymore ROBLOX will be done for in a few years. If you continue with your crap updates, then it will only accelerate the process. You are crapping up the clans to.. you have added so many ranks, and yet we can't delete them. Not to mention the HUGE glitch when updating ranks that has been unresolved for who knows how long. The admins are basically inactive. All ideas are pretty much ignored. The audiences completely changed. The overall quality of everything has gone down. You state in your rules that you don't encourage online dating, yet the body meshes you make indirectly encourage them. You have basically ruined all builders club bonuses on top of that, I recall upon first purchasing OBC I wanted it to build places, I needed the room and the R$. OBC used to get 180R$ daily for loyalty bonus now i get 72... terrible bonus compared to what it used to be, and thanks to all the new "updates". I have lost my interest in building. On top of that rather than updating the upload quality which is terrible, you resolve to "make the game better" by creating more new meshes and making more unneeded updates. Almost everyone buys clothes... at least make the quality nice for a change. I have lost all hope that this game will recover from it's current state.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now this is one is my favourite. This post was made by NoobTubetoday.
NoobTubetoday: Dear Moneybags Community,
On Tuesday morning we implemented minimum pricing on shirts, pants and t-shirts. The response from the ROBLOX community has been passionate and insightful. All of us at ROBLOX HQ have been busy the past two days ignoring you.
The change is intended to increase the amount of money we get in our paychecks. Yesterday, we lied about the amount of ROBUX our clothing designers they earned Wednesday of last week –more unhappy users is exactly what we wanted to see happen. Simultaneously, though, we have come to understand more thoroughly that some of our clothing designers just want everyone to wear their creations, regardless of earnings.But we don't care.
As mentioned before the price floors are intended to increase the amount of money we get out of your wallets. We have many ROBLOX developers and content creators who spend hundreds of hours on their creations. At BLOXcon I personally met several scammers who asked if there was some way they could share financially in their success in scamming. Next week, we are launching a robbery of a bank, that will allow ROBLOX scammers to convert a portion of their stolen ROBUX to real U.S. dollars we stole from your bank account. We believe this program will allow some of our most vicous scammers to devote even more time to creating interesting-er false title games. The more communist the ROBLOX economy becomes, the more we can reward top ROBLOX scammers. Our intent is to ultimately allow top con artists to make money off stolen ROBLOXian goods.
We have also ignored many of your complaints about the impact to groups and clans that our price floors have created. Many groups and clans have official clothing, uniforms and logo-wear, and it is now more difficult for non-Builders Club members to purchase these. We are looking for ways to make this worse.
We want you to know that we are here to steal your money, especially those of clothing designers wanting high-volume sales, groups and clans with widely used uniforms, and NBC players. We are trying to ignore our twitter, inboxes, and data. We are also still trying to make this worse. Please shut up
Truly,
– Your supreme leader David Baszuki
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is also a good one, this post was made by Corridon.
Corridon: This catalog update is absolutely ridiculous! I suppose whoever thought this up seriously wanted people to quit ROBLOX.
1) "We think it's better for the economy as a whole to enforce a minimum price on these goods." 1a) I think this is neo-stupid. Things are bought based upon their value, not upon government-controlled pricing. This will NOT help the economy. It will make it worse. If the economy was truly the purpose of this minimum price, then the idea would be crush the economy, not make it better. I digress. There are four reasons why this was put in place.
A. To chase away NBC members B. To force-inflate catalog items. C. To increase quality of shirts and pants being bought. D. To decrease the effectiveness of the sandbox-styled economy that we had before this.
2)"Reward makers and sellers of clothing" 2a) I think that this equally is ridiculous. How do you reward makers and sellers by putting a choke-hold on how they price their items?
3)"It takes a certain amount of skill to make a good looking piece of clothing in ROBLOX; this should be fairly rewarded. Right now it is not fair." 3a)You guys have no idea on what is fair or not, if you think that doing something like this to hurt our hard-working makers and sellers making things more fair. This is not helping anyone except ROBLOX inc. Babble away all you want on how this will help Robloxians, but ROBLOX Inc is the only group that stands to gain from this. Consumers are hurt, and sellers are hurt.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd like these thank these 3 people for their excellent posts, I had more people but I couldn't make the post any longer. They gave excellent points why this update should be removed.
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:18 PM |
They took it down to R$100 Now be contented. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:28 PM |
@Buzz
We don't have to read ANOTHER complaint.
I've read at least 50 of these.
I'm done.
The parody posts are the most annoying ones of them all.
Stop complaining. Their not selfish. They let people play for free.
ROBLOX isn't a necessity of your life. Stop acting like it is.
Spend wisely and you won't be disappointed. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:30 PM |
@Buzz
Nah, I think you can cope with it. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:31 PM |
Unfortunately, the price floor is definitely here to stay.
We're lucky they even lowered it. I don't like it neither, but its what you're going to have to live with. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:32 PM |
| Chaos if you don't want to read these threads than why are you responding to them? And to the rest of you don't respond if you didn't read the thread. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:34 PM |
@Buzz
I don't want to read them, so stop posting them.
They're annoying.
You pretty much took a bunch of annoying posts to make an even more annoying post.
I've seen every negative and positive respond to the price floor possible.
I don't have to read this to respond to it. It's just a bunch of nonconstructive people complaining about the price floor, or making a spoof of something a ROBLOX moderator/administrator said. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:37 PM |
| I read the thread, and I don't see why you can't cope with it. You should be happy that they lowered it to 100 tix. Plus, what benefit comes out of wearing clothes? |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:37 PM |
| So because you don't want to read them we should stop posting them? That's not how things work around here, we aren't going to try to please you. Simply ignore these posts and go post on threads that isn't related to the Price Floor Update. I'm not going to stop until they make this fair. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:39 PM |
@Buzz
I agree with chaos, these threads are very annoying.
You could have just supported the petition =.= |
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| 06 Oct 2013 12:40 PM |
IT IS FAIR.
Stop being dang ignorant.
I'm not gonna stop. I don't like the price floor mostly. But it does have it's pros for the ROBLOX economy.
Notice how all the posts you inserted in your thread were negative responses.
You're biased.
You don't care about the positive reactions.
Just those who agree with you.
For you to say that people aren't going to react to please me is completely wrong.
I'd love it if the price floor was gone.
But even more than that, THESE POSTS.
They're seriously the most annoying things I've seen on the S&I. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:01 PM |
"Notice how all the posts you inserted in your thread were negative responses."
This sentence tells me exactly that you didn't read this post. All I want to do is help NBC. I'm getting so sick of how ROBLOX is treating free users. They promise these features for them but a year later all they do is remove it. If you want the Price Floor gone than why aren't you doing anything? Telling people to stop complaining and not doing anything isn't going to fix this. ROBLOX needs to know there are times they are wrong. Yes this is their site but without the users ROBLOX is NOTHING.
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:01 PM |
| By the way tell me how it is fair. You keep saying it is fair but you have no evidence backing it up. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:04 PM |
@Buzz
They're negative responses to the price floor. -.-
You keep saying it's unfair. You said it first, so how about you back yourself up?
When someone who isn't in support of the price floor says your post is annoying, you should probably take a hint. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:17 PM |
"You keep saying it's unfair. You said it first, so how about you back yourself up?"
It will take NBC a total of 20 days to buy 1 shirt and pants. 20 days, is that fair? It used to be less then a day to buy clothes but now thanks to this update it will take them 10 days or I should say 20 days. ROBLOX keeps saying clothes makers are actually making more, why are they making posts saying they have actually been making less huh? NBC only gets 10 tix a day, they have a choice save up for some proper clothes or for a hat or to enter some of the cheap paid games. They can only do one thing and they have those 3 choices. ROBLOX wants to work like an economy right? Lets tread it like the economy.
NBC: Poverty Level: Can pretty much afford nothing. BC: Middle class: Can pretty much afford anything TBC:Middle class: Can pretty much afford anything. OBC:Upper Class: Can afford anything they like
There is one thing people never see is, they think NBC does absolutely nothing for ROBLOX and let me tell you their wrong. They are forced looking at offsite ads, which helps ROBLOX a lot more than just by paying $5 a month. They get treated so bad but they help ROBLOX so much. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:40 PM |
"It will take NBC a total of 20 days to buy 1 shirt and pants. 20 days, is that fair? It used to be less then a day to buy clothes but now thanks to this update it will take them 10 days or I should say 20 days."
"NBC only gets 10 tix a day, they have a choice save up for some proper clothes or for a hat or to enter some of the cheap paid games. They can only do one thing and they have those 3 choices."
---There are other ways to earn other than the daily income. This is what ROBLOX is trying to encourage.
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"ROBLOX keeps saying clothes makers are actually making more, why are they making posts saying they have actually been making less huh?"
---I am well aware of this. My best friend on here is a clothing designer, and she makes a significantly less amount. The reason you gave here is actually the only reason I don't like it, but it's enough to make me dislike it more than I like it.
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"ROBLOX wants to work like an economy right? Lets tread it like the economy."
---They are. The 30% of the currency the seller doesn't get is actually put into ROBLOX's system. Through this, more R$ will enter, and less tickets will. In the end, the value of tickets to R$ won't be equal, but more equal than it is now.
I once traded 50TIX for about R$15-R$20. Can you believe that?
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"NBC: Poverty Level: Can pretty much afford nothing. BC: Middle class: Can pretty much afford anything TBC:Middle class: Can pretty much afford anything. OBC:Upper Class: Can afford anything they like"
---This is pretty much true. But that's only if the person is only using their daily income. Once again, ROBLOX is trying to encourage creativity. If you are very creative and get your game out there, you may become richer than an OBC member who only goes off of their daily income.
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"There is one thing people never see is, they think NBC does absolutely nothing for ROBLOX and let me tell you their wrong. They are forced looking at offsite ads, which helps ROBLOX a lot more than just by paying $5 a month. They get treated so bad but they help ROBLOX so much."
I don't think the ads actually get them all that much. But then again, I'm not entirely sure.
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I will admit, I took a rather rude approach at first. There's just so many of these posts that I'm sick of seeing them. That, you can hopefully understand. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:42 PM |
| @Buzz, is this really a problem for you, you have the overseer body, your obviously rich |
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| 06 Oct 2013 01:42 PM |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxgAGNJO22g (Wow the interesting thing about that is *Snortsnortsnort*) |
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| 06 Oct 2013 02:44 PM |
V85 this isn't really a problem for me, I would just like to help NBC as much as I can.
"---There are other ways to earn other than the daily income. This is what ROBLOX is trying to encourage." Another problem for NBC. They can't afford ads. How many clicks can 100 tix really give you? If you look at the front page, do you see any places created by NBC? BC users spend so much on ads even if NBC try to advertise their ad will barely show. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 02:46 PM |
| Chaos I guess I also took the rude approach first, with the other posts. Just like to apologize about that. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 02:49 PM |
| ROBLOX isn't life, stop complaining about a price floor. They lowered it 70%. |
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| 06 Oct 2013 02:50 PM |
Im with Buzz support
becasue really roblox need legit money manageers and see how they can make better money than "price floor" |
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| 06 Oct 2013 03:05 PM |
| Well I would support price floor if they gave us 60 or more tickets a day. |
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